A compassionate act doesn't need to be altruistic to be a compassionate act.
Was Connor the Crusher a work?
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No it doesn't. Altruism is selfless concern for other people. You don't even have to be able to empathize to be altruistic. You help someone not because it helps, not because it alleviates any suffering on your part. Altruistic acts are acts with absolutely no reward to the person doing the good deed.
The word compassion means literally "to suffer together." You feel something for someone else who is suffering and you feel the suffering yourself. You do good things to help them in order to alleviate both yours and their suffering.
This is psych 101 stuff.
You can be alturistic without having to be compassionate, you are right. But to be compassionate, you need a certain level of alturistic
No, you don't. Compassion, again, is to alleviate the suffering of both yourself and the person you're compassionate to. That automatically precludes the act of compassion from being altruistic.
Not trying to be an ass here, but this is social psychology, which I happen to have a doctorate in so I am pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.
I think you might mean you have to have some level of selflessness to be compassionate Red.
Like in order to fully be aware and empathize with others, you have to disregard yourself to a certain degree.
Like in order to fully be aware and empathize with others, you have to disregard yourself to a certain degree.
I was thinking about it, and on the flip side of this... Some people are compassionate simply because it makes them feel good so in a way, you can be selfish and compassionate. It kind of depends on the person.
Like what WWE does (for the most part with charity) is selfish compassion but what Daniel Bryan did for Connor is selfless compassion.
Selfish Compassion - Doing something good and expecting something in return
Selfless Compassion - Doing something good and expecting nothing.
It is like comparing Philia and Agape. Both are forms of love but only one is pure in intentions and selfless or "unconditional".
Like what WWE does (for the most part with charity) is selfish compassion but what Daniel Bryan did for Connor is selfless compassion.
Selfish Compassion - Doing something good and expecting something in return
Selfless Compassion - Doing something good and expecting nothing.
It is like comparing Philia and Agape. Both are forms of love but only one is pure in intentions and selfless or "unconditional".
Exactly but a reaction to doing something for others that is internal is different from doing something to receive money, recognition from other people, acceptance, etc.
That's a good way to put it. And I know I am being way too textbook definition here. A certain level of selflessness could indeed contribute to feeling compassionate. Outright selflessness, which is what altruism is, isn't present in pure compassion.
I am probably just being prickly today because having to restore my laptop. I'll stop being so bitchy
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One thing that bugs me is that it took this boy to make WWE do something positive. WWE, as we all know, goes to deplorable depths to advance itself, though from time to time, it does commendable things and usually because it's something big like...
9/11
Eddie Gurrero's death
And then...
Connor Michalek, just too name a few.
So, you have to present something really life changing to make WWE show a more honorable side and I don't like it. The closesr analogy to this would have ro be a heart that beats silently, but needs a shock to beat more actively.
The wrestlers are mostly sincere with everything like this so focus on them and less on the company as a whole. Business has its ugly side in every company.