Vince not happy with Batista not being over

[Dolph'sZiggler]

maybe...maybe some more back story...not necessarily talking on the mic a whole lot but give him some more appearances and kick somebody's ass now and then?

I think Batista's height of interest was before he debuted. By the time he showed up they realized the name recognition was all he had. His beatdowns don't look cool, his ADR powerbombs have all been lame. I think every time he appears, he is so bland and bad he loses fans interest more and more. So yea, headlining Mania here he comes.

 

[Lockard 23]

Less is more in wrestling. I think giving Batista more screen time leading up to the RR match would have made for just as big a disaster.

I don't feel "less is more" really applies in this case. We're about to start seeing a whole lot of Batista in the coming weeks during the build to Mania and especially afterwards when he actually has the championship in his possession anyways. He's even back to working house shows. In my mind, coming back earlier wouldn't have hurt. Making at least a couple of more appearances and cutting another promo or two would have gotten people a little more familiar with him (at least to me it would have made him winning a little more acceptable on a personal level.) At the very least, they could have tested the waters and seen how the fans react to his return for at least a few weeks before deciding whether they'd have him win the Rumble or not as opposed to just assuming he'd get a mega reaction and have all the fan support behind him upon coming back. (Not that it likely would have mattered given their stubbornness, but it's an idea.)

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I don't feel "less is more" really applies in this case. We're about to start seeing a whole lot of Batista in the coming weeks during the build to Mania and especially afterwards when he actually has the championship in his possession anyways. He's even back to working house shows. In my mind, coming back earlier wouldn't have hurt. Making at least a couple of more appearances and cutting another promo or two would have gotten people a little more familiar with him (at least to me it would have made him winning a little more acceptable on a personal level.) At the very least, they could have tested the waters and seen how the fans react to his return for at least a few weeks before deciding whether they'd have him win the Rumble or not as opposed to just assuming he'd get a mega reaction and have all the fan support behind him upon coming back. (Not that it likely would have mattered given their stubbornness, but it's an idea.)

Disagree. Less is more with Batista, because like I said his peak of interest was pre-debut. Once he debuted it was like "oh yea, that's Batista" and interest will only fade from here because he is so uninteresting. Of course less is more isn't solving anything, it is simply slowing the leak of interest coming from the Batista raft. It is sinking no matter what WWE does or did.

 

[Lockard 23]

In that case, why wouldn't they just hold off on his debut until the Rumble? Yeah, they wanted to pop a big rating for Raw (since that's just so important and stuff) but If his interest was expected to fade shortly after his debut (which I'll respectfully disagree on given that if it were true, they likely wouldn't be putting the strap on him in the first place a full two and a half months later), it seems they'd have likely just held off on his first comeback till the actual Rumble itself.

Of course none of this would have stopped him from getting booed either way, I'm just speaking on a personal level (though I'm certain many would agree.) It's hard to get excited over someone winning the Rumble when they come back so shortly before it and spend all of about three minutes on-screen prior to the match itself. They didn't go this route with bigger stars like The Rock and Brock Lesnar, so I fail to see why thought it was the best idea to take it with Batista.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

In that case, why wouldn't they just hold off on his debut until the Rumble? Yeah, they wanted to pop a big rating for Raw (since that's just so important and stuff) but If his interest was expected to fade shortly after his debut (which I'll respectfully disagree on given that if it were true, they likely wouldn't be putting the strap on him in the first place a full two and a half months later), it seems they'd have likely just held off on his first comeback till the actual Rumble itself.

Of course none of this would have stopped him from getting booed either way, I'm just speaking on a personal level (though I'm certain many would agree.) It's hard to get excited over someone winning the Rumble when they come back so shortly before it and spend all of about three minutes on-screen prior to the match itself. They didn't go this route with bigger stars like The Rock and Brock Lesnar, so I fail to see why thought it was the best idea to take it with Batista.

I'm not saying WWE knew or expeted Batista to flop like he has, they are fucking idiots and don't know shit about what fans want. I'm saying that is the reality of the situation, that every time Batista appears more and more people will give less and less of a fuck.

as far as you not digging Batista's rumble win, again, wouldn't matter what they had him do before or how many times he did it, Batista winning that match wasn't going to satisfy the wants and needs of wrestling fans such as yourself. It was NEVEr going to.

 

[Snowman1]

We, as fans, see the wrestlers more as individual talents than "big names" here in 2014. We get excited for Taker because it's a cool gimmick and he gives us amazing matches. We get excited for Rock and Jericho because they're two of the most entertaining characters in history. We get excited for Brock because he'll chew up everyone he sees. We get excited for Batista because.......?

Vince doesn't get that first sentence at all.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

We get excited for Batista because.......?

skinny jeans?
shaved eyebrows?
nose studs?
powerbombs and botched spinebusters??
post match pouty-fests??

I'm lost man idk

 

[Lockard 23]

Must be the tattoos.

 

[Snowman1]

skinny jeans?
shaved eyebrows?
nose studs?
powerbombs and botched spinebusters??
post match pouty-fests??

I'm lost man idk

LOL. Really, you don't think muscles and skinny jeans would make him a draw? They're big with the preteen skateboarder demographic!

Gonna run down the checklist real quick:
-Mic Skills: None.
-Charisma: None.
-Character: None.
-Wrestling ability: He got completely blown up when doing fuck-all in the rumble
-The look: He looks ridiculous, and honestly big muscley guys work better as heels (with a few exceptions that used to be in your sig)

From what I've been reading this feud with Dorito has been alot like the Sheamus/Henry feud from last year, so they're even getting him over as a heel. Great job.

 

[Swift]

I knew Batista would be a bust, I still have no idea why anyone as even remotely excited (and there were plenty of you). The guy sucks.

#outLock-ingLockard

 

[Senhor Perfect]

I knew Batista would be a bust, I still have no idea why anyone as even remotely excited (and there were plenty of you). The guy sucks.

#outLock-ingLockard

It'd be completely different had they have listened to me and brought him back heel! He's so easily hateable. I don't understand at the time they had punk, DB, and Cena as the top faces. 3 easy feuds for Batista. You could even turn Brock face easily to not upset the balance too much, good lord!

 

[Dat Girl]

skinny jeans?
shaved eyebrows?
nose studs?
powerbombs and botched spinebusters??
post match pouty-fests??

I'm lost man idk

I actually thought the middle finger yes chants were pretty funny and worth watching :sad:

 

[Wacokid27]

Vince isn't happy. That's funny.

But why isn't Vince happy? Because Dave can't get over with the fans. And why can't Dave get over with the fans?

Let me make a comparison:

Dave Bautista (Batista)
Born 1/18/1969 in Washington, D.C. (he's 45 years old)
Has a deep voice but not gravelly, rumbling, or anything else remotely interesting
Has shaved his head
Has won 2 WWE Championships and 4 WHC's (for a total of 6 "World Championships"), along with 2 Royal Rumbles (now) and Superstar of the Year in 2007
Does a taunt based on a guy who was a staple of the late 1980's/early 1990's (Ultimate Warrior), although he is being inducted into the HoF this year, then a move that is based off a promo centered on somebody else (the "thumbs down" gesture was given to Randy Orton after he won the title by HHH, which led to Evolution beating down Orton) that took place a decade ago
Returned from Hollywood where he's been playing bit parts in movies most people aren't watching a week before the Rumble and won it

Stephen Farrelly (Sheamus)
Born 1/28/1978 in Dublin, Ireland (he's 36 years old)
Has a boyish Irish brogue (it's not just a kick anymore) that definitely attracts attention
Has a complexion so white it's nearly clear and bright red hair and beard
Has won 2 WWE Championships and 1 WHC (for a total of 3 "World Championships"), along with a Royal Rumble and King of the Ring (2010)
Does taunts that invites audience participation (both the pounding of guys' chests counting to ten and the pounding his own chest while preparing to deliver the Brogue Kick)
Returned from an injury sustained while performing in a wrestling match at the Rumble and was in the final three.

And most people (and I say this as a guy who generally likes Sheamus) don't want to see Sheamus in the main event at Wrestlemania XXX, so why would the audience want to see a 9-year-older, far less interesting version of him (Batista) in it?

wk

 

[JC4Life37]

Vince McMahon is a delusional piece of hot garbage if this news any element of truth to it

 

[WWESpongefan]

Well after tonight Bootista sure isn't over. I liked at people's reactions on Twitter. Del Rio is more over than Batista