Vince McMahon Sex Trafficking / Resignation Mega Thread

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I’ve long since try to do the separate the art from the artist thing, because it becomes increasingly more clear that every medium is filled with the absolute worst of the worst, and I actually think wrestling was probably worse 40 years ago than it even is today because I do think there’s at least a modicum of an attempt to clean it up even if they’re not successful all the time. This however took us back there.
 
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I can go back even farther really, I can watch the Wizard of Oz and enjoy it despite knowing how fucked the making of that movie was now. I'm not bragging or anything about it, I think you guys honestly have better morals than me, but it would be impossible to try and cut out everything. Admirable to those that try, I won't ever call them hypocrites for not being able to cut it all out when they're making more effort than me
 

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Sex Pistols is definitely the most prominent example of this.

This is also my chance to throw out my hot take that Sid Vicious always fucking sucked and couldn't play bass to save his life.
Is that a hot take? I thought it was generally agreed he couldn’t play bass :lol
 

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I’ve long since try to do the separate the art from the artist thing, because it becomes increasingly more clear that every medium is filled with the absolute worst of the worst, and I actually think wrestling was probably worse 40 years ago than it even is today because I do think there’s at least a modicum of an attempt to clean it up even if they’re not successful all the time. This however took us back there.

Separating is fine, I think what annoys me the most is when people feel they need to justify scummy behavior as not being that bad bc if they acknowledge it's that bad they can't rationalize enjoying the entertainment still
 
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You wanna watch the most infuriating instance check out the Jimmy Saville documentary on Netflix
 
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I can go back even farther really, I can watch the Wizard of Oz and enjoy it despite knowing how fucked the making of that movie was now. I'm not bragging or anything about it, I think you guys honestly have better morals than me, but it would be impossible to try and cut out everything. Admirable to those that try, I won't ever call them hypocrites for not being able to cut it all out when they're making more effort than me
I'm the exact opposite. I can't stomach watching Wizard of Oz and I honestly haven't tried to in like a decade and a half.
 

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I can go back even farther really, I can watch the Wizard of Oz and enjoy it despite knowing how fucked the making of that movie was now. I'm not bragging or anything about it, I think you guys honestly have better morals than me, but it would be impossible to try and cut out everything. Admirable to those that try, I won't ever call them hypocrites for not being able to cut it all out when they're making more effort than me
I think I’m pretty closely aligned with you. I think Chris Benoit was probably the most recent example of someone where I didn’t wanna have anything to do with them but I have slowly watched things they just happen to be in and just try to let it go.
 

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The stuff that came out about Justin Timberlake and what he did to Britney disgusted me and I stopped listening to his music. I was already iffy about him after hearing some stuff about him in a documentary about her before the stuff came out about him in her book.

He’ll be on SNL this week as a musical guest, I might skip that this week.
 

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I can go back even farther really, I can watch the Wizard of Oz and enjoy it despite knowing how fucked the making of that movie was now. I'm not bragging or anything about it, I think you guys honestly have better morals than me, but it would be impossible to try and cut out everything. Admirable to those that try, I won't ever call them hypocrites for not being able to cut it all out when they're making more effort than me

I mean I suck too cuz I still watch and listen to most of it. I just recognize there can be a moral issue.
 
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I still don’t think I could write Chris Benoit in a BTB, though.
 
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I'm the exact opposite. I can't stomach watching Wizard of Oz and I honestly haven't tried to in like a decade and a half.

Yeah that's more than fair, I'm not going to come at you with "but it's one of the most innovative movies blah blah blah"
 
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Separating is fine, I think what annoys me the most is when people feel they need to justify scummy behavior as not being that bad bc if they acknowledge it's that bad they can't rationalize enjoying the entertainment still
Yeah, that can be a tough one, but I assume it’s just because they don’t like being judged for still watching and enjoying the content.
 

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The stuff that came out about Justin Timberlake and what he did to Britney disgusted me and I stopped listening to his music. I was already iffy about him after hearing some stuff about him in a documentary about her before the stuff came out about him in her book.

He’ll be on SNL this week as a musical guest, I might skip that this week.
I won’t even watch a movie with him in it either too. That guy can get bent for all I care.
 

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Yeah that's more than fair, I'm not going to come at you with "but it's one of the most innovative movies blah blah blah"
There's a great video on the matter of Wizard of Oz if you're interested: