Undertaker Wants Wrestlemania Match

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R Albin said:
I actually can see how that would be a good thing, but in the same way it makes the streak a lot less credible. IMO there should be no doubt after he finishes wrestling that he is 'at his best', anything other than that just makes the streak look less legit.

He would win in the end proving he is still on top, beating a guy half his age who is in his prime. Unlike the last two older guys he faced.
 

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Undertaker-Bryan? You guys have to be kidding.

Casuals will never see Bryan as a threat to the streak. He looks like a midget up beside Taker.
 

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KevinLockard23 said:
Undertaker-Bryan? You guys have to be kidding.

Casuals will never see Bryan as a threat to the streak. He looks like a midget up beside Taker.

Agreed.

The only one I could see as a possible threat is Kane.
 

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Jose Tortilla said:
Agreed.

The only one I could see as a possible threat is Kane.

Credibility wise there are a few options, Ryback and Sheamus being two that spring to mind, but out of the ACTIVE roster the only attractive ones are Punk/Taker and Cena/Taker, and as a big Punk mark I wouldn't be in favour of the former.
 

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Credibility wise there are a few options, Ryback and Sheamus being two that spring to mind, but out of the ACTIVE roster the only attractive ones are Punk/Taker and Cena/Taker, and as a big Punk mark I wouldn't be in favour of the former.

:maybe: Taker > punk. The wins end this year, or he pulls off a legendary match vs DZ/DB, which we all know wont happen. Most likely Taker vs Main even heel at the time. Could be one of the shield. HIAC or bury match or something, and that is a heel run for the new year. Just a random opinion.
 

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Re: RE: Undertaker Wants Wrestlemania Match

KevinLockard23 said:
Undertaker-Bryan? You guys have to be kidding.

Casuals will never see Bryan as a threat to the streak. He looks like a midget up beside Taker.

You really underestimate the quality of Bryan..... He looked somewhat credible against Sheamus, Show and Henry despite never getting a straight win because of how good he is, build him correctly and of course the casuals will buy into.... They did with Shawn because of his build so why not Bryan?
 

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You really underestimate the quality of Bryan..... He looked somewhat credible against Sheamus, Show and Henry despite never getting a straight win because of how good he is, build him correctly and of course the casuals will buy into.... They did with Shawn because of his build so why not Bryan?

I understand what you're saying...

But WM is 4 months away.. It's too soon for now.
 

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Re: RE: Undertaker Wants Wrestlemania Match

Jose Tortilla said:
I understand what you're saying...

But WM is 4 months away.. It's too soon for now.

Unlikely yes but Bryan snapping and taking out Kane clean for 2 consecutive PPV's before injuring him indefinitely could help a great deal.
 

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:maybe: Taker > punk. The wins end this year, or he pulls off a legendary match vs DZ/DB, which we all know wont happen. Most likely Taker vs Main even heel at the time. Could be one of the shield. HIAC or bury match or something, and that is a heel run for the new year. Just a random opinion.

Holy shit if Ambrose were to face Taker that would be incredible. The thought of him playing minds games with Taker is just...wow.
 

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R Albin said:
Holy shit if Ambrose were to face Taker that would be incredible. The thought of him playing minds games with Taker is just...wow.

To be honest. The only one from the Shield I see as currently taking on Taker is Reigns. Ambrose to be able to tango with the dead man needs to be established in singles competition first, whilst Reigns almost killed his brother last Sunday. He also has the size for it.
 

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To be honest. The only one from the Shield I see as currently taking on Taker is Reigns. Ambrose to be able to tango with the dead man needs to be established in singles competition first, whilst Reigns almost killed his brother last Sunday. He also has the size for it.

That was mainly just me in fanboy mode but Ambrose is the only one who could come close to making the step up. Unlike Bryan, he's not had the burden of a comedy character to deal with and his mic work can make him instantly credible. Reigns is most likely green as hell, totally unproven, crap on the mic, the only thing he has going for him at the moment is his look. A fued between he and Taker would suck so much ass.
 

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R Albin said:
That was mainly just me in fanboy mode but Ambrose is the only one who could come close to making the step up. Unlike Bryan, he's not had the burden of a comedy character to deal with and his mic work can make him instantly credible. Reigns is most likely green as hell, totally unproven, crap on the mic, the only thing he has going for him at the moment is his look. A fued between he and Taker would suck so much ass.

This.

Ambrose and Taker would be gold.
 

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R Albin said:
That was mainly just me in fanboy mode but Ambrose is the only one who could come close to making the step up. Unlike Bryan, he's not had the burden of a comedy character to deal with and his mic work can make him instantly credible. Reigns is most likely green as hell, totally unproven, crap on the mic, the only thing he has going for him at the moment is his look. A fued between he and Taker would suck so much ass.
Yet Ambrose in kayfabe has zero value to his name as a singles wrestler. Bryan's kayfabe value is being a former world heayweight champion, former United states champion. He has beaten the Undertaker's own brother in singles competition as well as both the Big Show and Mark Henry. That in itself qualifies him for tangling with men much bigger than himself.

Reigns gets a boost from me because partially his size and pure athleticism. Also his kayfabe value gets a major boost after the guard rail spot on Sunday. If that spot in kayfabe takes out the Undertaker's brother then it would imply that Undertaker, a being of equal or slightly more power than Kane would also fall from that move. Reigns has showcased the physical power that in kayfabe grants him contendership.

Ambrose, whilst a good talker has neither of the other two's credibility in kayfabe right now. Only the praise of the IWC, who are doing the exact thing they complain about the WWE doing with Ryback. Pushing Ambrose too fast. They complain when guys get pushed too quickly but they want the same to happen to Ambrose, and there is no guarantee that Ambrose will succeed, only our hope and praise based on past experiences on smaller stages. Ambrose could by some weird coincidence flop majorly. Try him out for a year first.

No one should go from debuting on the main roster in October to feuding with Undertaker by Wrestlemania.

This is not me bashing Ambrose, rather me being realistic. Give him one year to grow and prosper, to prove us and the WWE right in investing in him, before throwing him in front of arguably the biggest test in pro wrestling. Rome wasn't build in a day, neither are stars.
 

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You don't need kayfabe accomplishments to book someone against Taker in a WM match, you're being uncreative there my friend. Whilst I agree this year isn't the best to do it, I'd rather have it done than never at all, and I would much prefer it to some HHH vs Taker part 10 or some crap.
 

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Stopspot said:
Yet Ambrose in kayfabe has zero value to his name as a singles wrestler. Bryan's kayfabe value is being a former world heayweight champion, former United states champion. He has beaten the Undertaker's own brother in singles competition as well as both the Big Show and Mark Henry. That in itself qualifies him for tangling with men much bigger than himself.

Reigns gets a boost from me because partially his size and pure athleticism. Also his kayfabe value gets a major boost after the guard rail spot on Sunday. If that spot in kayfabe takes out the Undertaker's brother then it would imply that Undertaker, a being of equal or slightly more power than Kane would also fall from that move. Reigns has showcased the physical power that in kayfabe grants him contendership.

Ambrose, whilst a good talker has neither of the other two's credibility in kayfabe right now. Only the praise of the IWC, who are doing the exact thing they complain about the WWE doing with Ryback. Pushing Ambrose too fast. They complain when guys get pushed too quickly but they want the same to happen to Ambrose, and there is no guarantee that Ambrose will succeed, only our hope and praise based on past experiences on smaller stages. Ambrose could by some weird coincidence flop majorly. Try him out for a year first.

No one should go from debuting on the main roster in October to feuding with Undertaker by Wrestlemania.

This is not me bashing Ambrose, rather me being realistic. Give him one year to grow and prosper, to prove us and the WWE right in investing in him, before throwing him in front of arguably the biggest test in pro wrestling. Rome wasn't build in a day, neither are stars.

Yeah but I imagine the majority of casuals don't sit and deliberate over which man is the most decorated, and I imagine 95% see Bryan as a comedy guy who is carried by Kane. Even if he were to snap on Kane and beat the living hell out of him, whenever he gets angry the crowd's first instinct will be to chant 'yes' or 'goatface' or whatever.

But that is the thing with Ambrose, he's basically starting on a blank canvas like Ryback was a couple of months ago. Now obviously he doesn't have anywhere near the presence of Ryback, but he just has to go over a few top guys to be at that stage. For the record, I think for WWE to draw Brock/Taker is the way to go, but if they are thinking long term and putting over a guy, then Ambrose has to be the pick. I don't think anybody has any real doubts that he is ready, he's proved throughout his time in FCW that he can perform in the ring, (and let's be honest here, Taker could carry me to a 4 star match) and of course mic work he's gonna have no problem with lol.

The fued basically books itself, it would be so fun seeing a guy completely no sell all of Taker's shit and try to play head games with him, as I say, Brock/Taker is the way I'd go, but Ambrose/Taker would undoubtedly be epic.