UFC 148: Silva vs. Sonnen II

[TheOneKnownAsFetter]

Who doesn't dominate Mayhem? He never was that great of a fighter IMO. Maybe he should go back to Bully Beatdown.

Anyways, A Silva vs. Jones fight will never happen I don't think. Silva knows Jones is pretty much the same type of fighter, just alot younger. Jone's has a definite weight advantage, and is a pure monster on take downs which in many of Silva's fights has been a weak point (Other then last night of course, it seems like Silva trained on that subject more since his last couple fights.) Silva doesn't want to fight off his back, cause he'd get dominated like his first fight against Sonnen. Jones would put him there.

 

[Slim]

Silva is a bjj black belt so it isn't like he'd be like a fish out of water if he was on his back. He was on his back when he tapped Chael out in the first fight.

 

[TheOneKnownAsFetter]

Sonnen finally trained submissions before his last fight, last night. Jone's has always been great on submission defense. He's lanky and has a reach advantage and could easily take care of Silva himself on the ground.

 

[Chase]

You guys talking about dream fights... how about we talk about who would win against Frankie Edgar vs GSP.....

Ok in all seriousness you know why this fight won't happen here is why. Anderson loses Jones would gain too much hype, and thus could not lose another fight again, Anderson's career would not be as great. Why in the hell ruin it like Michael Jordan did to his like lol think people.

If Jones loses Dana can't market Jones as better than Anderson near future. Simple

 

[Slim]

You guys talking about dream fights... how about we talk about who would win against Frankie Edgar vs GSP.....

Ok in all seriousness you know why this fight won't happen here is why. Anderson loses Jones would gain too much hype, and thus could not lose another fight again, Anderson's career would not be as great. Why in the hell ruin it like Michael Jordan did to his like lol think people.

If Jones loses Dana can't market Jones as better than Anderson near future. Simple

GSP would win

And the thing is... if Anderson loses he is at the tail end of his career so it'd almost seem like a passing of the torch to the younger and stronger version of himself but the thing is... there would be so many people clamoring for Anderson to retire... it'd be like oh he lost he is over the hill he doesn't have anything left and blah blah blah. But the key is to give him as much hype as possible and a big win like that... shoot that'd put him way way over. To the point that they'd have to move him up to heavyweight.

But if Silva were to win... well... it'd just solidify that there is nobody out there better than Anderson Silva period. And it'd be like Jones tried against the absolute best and came up short but he has plenty of years left in his career to get better and improve and lalala.

So it wouldn't hurt too bad... unless it was a straight domination by Silva over Jones. But a Silva loss wouldn't hurt him near as bad.

Jones still has to deal with Hendo though and that isn't gonna be easy.

 

[Chase]

I just think if Jones clears out his division and if Anderson is down do it. I just don't think it will be smart because Jones is still learning and has a lot of potential to be great. The thing is it is just like in the near future the UFC will have to promote some one as the next greatest of all time. So who knows maybe Jones and Silva won't fight because of business reasons. Dana will only put one dream fight and that would be Silva vs GSP even though it is like 4 years too late.

 

[No More Sorrow]

Here's the Fighter Payouts & Medical Suspensions from this show

Fighter Salaries

The full UFC 148 payouts included:

Anderson Silva: $200,000 (no win bonus)
def. Chael Sonnen: $50,000

Forrest Griffin: $275,000 (includes $150,000 win bonus)
def. Tito Ortiz: $250,000

Cung Le: $150,000 (no win bonus)
def. Patrick Cote: $21,000

Demian Maia: $96,000 (includes $48,000 win bonus)
def. Dong Hyun Kim: $44,000

Chad Mendes: $36,000 (includes $18,000 win bonus)
def. Cody McKenzie: $10,000

Mike Easton: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Ivan Menjivar: $13,000

Melvin Guillard: $72,000 (includes $36,000 win bonus)
def. Fabricio Camoes: $8,000

Khabib Nurmagomedov: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Gleison Tibau: $31,000

Constantinos Philippou: $32,000 (includes $16,000 win bonus)
def. Riki Fukuda: $28,000

Shane Roller: $46,000 (includes $23,000 win bonus)
def. John Alessio: $10,000

Rafaello Oliveira: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
def. Yoislandy Izquierdo: $6,000​

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Medical Suspensions

The full list of suspensions arising from UFC 148 include:


Chael Sonnen: Suspended until Aug. 7 with no contact until July 29 for nasal laceration.

Forrest Griffin: Suspended until Aug. 22 with no contact until Aug. 12 for possible jaw injury. Additionally, must have CT scan of jaw and be cleared by doctor or no contest until Oct. 6.

Cung Le: Suspended until Aug. 7 with no contact until July 29 for left eye laceration. Additionally, must have x-ray of right knee and right foot and be cleared by doctor or no contest until Oct. 6.

Patrick Cote: Suspended until Aug. 7 with no contact until July 29 for scalp laceration.

Dong Hyun Kim: Suspended until Aug. 22 with no contact until Aug. 7 for TKO loss.

Cody McKenzie: Suspended until Aug. 22 with no contact until Aug. 7 for TKO loss.

Ivan Menjivar: Must have x-ray or MRI of left knee and be cleared by doctor or no contest until Oct. 6.

Fabricio Camoes: Suspended until Aug. 7 with no contact until July 29.

Gleison Tibau: Suspended until Aug. 7 with no contact until July 29 for right eye laceration.

Constantinos Philippou: Suspended until Aug. 7 with no contact until July 30. Additionally, must have left eye cleared by ophthalmologist or no contest until Oct. 6.

Rafaello Oliveira: Suspended until Aug. 7 with no contact until July 29 for scalp laceration.

 

[No More Sorrow]

Ratings are in for the UFC 148 Prelim Fights;

The all-time UFC-FX ratings include:
UFC 148 ratings (prelims): 1.8 million viewers
UFC 145 ratings (prelims): 1.6 million
UFC 144 ratings (prelims): 1.5 million
UFC on FX 2 ratings (main card): 1.4 million
UFC 143 ratings (prelims): 1.4 million
UFC on FX 4 ratings (main card): 1.3 million
UFC 146 ratings (prelims): 1.3 million
UFC on FX 1 ratings (main card): 1.3 million
UFC on FX 3 ratings (main card): 1.1 million
TUF Live Finale ratings (main card): 1.0 million
UFC 147 ratings (prelims): 969,000
UFC 142 ratings (prelims): 880,000

Be a few weeks before the buy rate for the actual PPV comes out, but I'm thinking the PPV will do between 850K-1Million buys.

 

[Dademo]

Jon Jones won't outstrike Anderson Silva. Anderson Silva is the best striker in MMA not named Alistair Overeem. Jon Jones only outstruck Rampage and Rashad because their not elite strikers. And no, Rampage is not an elite striker, AT ALL. Shogun he took him down and used ground and pound and Machida he was having trouble striking against, so he used his strength and choked him out.

I see Jon Jones beating Anderson but it would be because of Jon Jones' extremely tough wrestling. Jon Jones would maybe finish him in the later rounds, depending on how the fight goes. Jon would probably be able to use gnp like he used on Shogun, on Anderson, but we'll never know.

And every round starts standing. Just saying. A great example of that was in this fight. Round 2 started standing...

Also this fight reminded me of the Hendo fight vs. Anderson. Would anyone agree?

 

[Troy]

I caught this in Macau, convincing win by Silva. Sonnen did well to take him down in the first round but Silva never looked troubled on his back. Then Silva capitalised on one simple mistake by Sonnen and stopped him in style. I kind of expected more from Sonnen but he only seemed to have one plan, take down Silva.

Looking at the fighters pay I am still baffled that Silva wasn't the highest paid fighter, I know that he will get a cut of the PPV buys but still for the top fighter in the company $200k is nothing.