Theory: Triple H & Stephanie McMahon played politics and got Chris Kreski demoted & Chyna fired

[Smart Marx]

I also never said she lost popularity. You keep bringing that up, but it’s irrelevant to her value to a company that can’t use her properly in their new direction.

 

[RLStern]

I said it took a minute, but they got there. They began to phase out the more risky stuff mid 2000. They created RTC to mock the PTC complaining, but ultimately used it to tone down their image by removing the porn star, the pimp etc and it was around THIS period not 1999 that Chyna was phased away from men and to women

You need to rewatch 2000.

June 2000 is when RTC started and a decrease in sexualized themes... that has absolutely nothing to do with Chyna, but the PTC. it’s relevant when it comes to Chyna.

I also never said she lost popularity. You keep bringing that up, but it’s irrelevant to her value to a company that can’t use her properly in their new direction

They were using her properly, she beat jobbers like Molly and heel midgets like Ivory.

She went on to face Lita and would lose to her as she was willing and they wanted to push her. She then had other women to work with in the future coming from WCW & ECW, such as Jazz, then Finlay getting the girls into wrestling shape.

They had many avenues to go, this idea that they had nowhere to go for their 2nd biggest draw is nonsense.

She didn’t squash the entire women’s division in 2001 and had no where to go, rewatch 2001.

Vince fired him. Period. The facts don't lie.
After one year. The facts don't lie.
Getting fired is good for someone's career - if they are really talented, they will turn things around and be able to reclaim the same job.



Ken Coleman will explain the benefits. I would recommend you watch this video. The video last six minutes - so if you reply before six minutes from me posting. Then I will know you are ignoring credible sources. Choosing to ignore this video - means you believe feelings are more important than numbers and facts.

Vince isn’t demoting his daughter for anyone, no matter how good.

Chris Kreski died in June 2005 from cancer 3 years after leaving the creative team. Had he lived he would’ve likely been on the team in the future. No one was more successful except Russo

 

[Smart Marx]

It’s not irrelevant. The entire company shifted it tone.

Chyna was wrestling women by the end of the year and it was tied into the RTC with Ivory breaking her neck.

 

[Smart Marx]

I’m currently watching 2001. She has nowhere to go.

She’s floating aimlessly without a credible competition.

 

[Smart Marx]

Eddie Guerrero was also let go due to drugs and that’s squashed that angle she might have had to work with.

 

[Smart Marx]

Anyways, this is even further off topic.

So Kreski was cool and that’s all I got to say.

 

[CakeWalker]

Chris Kreski died in June 2005 from cancer 3 years after leaving the creative team. Had he lived he would’ve likely been on the team in the future. No one was more successful except Russo


Then I don't know what your point is, other than you agree with me.

 

[RLStern]

It’s not irrelevant. The entire company shifted it tone.

Chyna was wrestling women by the end of the year and it was tied into the RTC with Ivory breaking her neck.

It is irrelevant, it had to do with sexualized themes and characters such as on screen nudity, pimps, pornstars etc

Had nothing to do with a woman wrestling guys, in fact Chyna wrestled guys until the very end of the year in 2000, you forgot Val Venis vs Chyna from Armageddon, again rewatch 2000, 1999 and 2001 too.

The RTC story had to do with the Playboy magazine.

I’m currently watching 2001. She has nowhere to go.

She’s floating aimlessly without a credible competition.

Incorrect, she became women’s champion and then had matches with Ivory, Molly Holly squashing then leading to the Lita feud, the purpose of it was to make Lita credible. That’s the first competitive match she had with a woman.

Trish Status was floating aimlessly, yet they kept her around. She had absolutely nothing to do after Mcmahon story all the way until Invasion.

So the entire argument goes out the window, Chyna was 10x more popular than Trish Stratus.

 

[CakeWalker]

Also did you just change the topic title - after you went off topic.
Isn't that a bit hypocritical? That a revisionist move - changing the OP to suit your needs.

 

[RLStern]

Manami Toyota is the greatest women's wrestler of all time.

Also did you just change the topic title - after you went off topic.
Isn't that a bit hypocritical? That a revisionist move - changing the OP to suit your needs.

Talk about hypocrisy... lol

 

[Sabretooth]

You don’t understand that every story has two sides. Of course Chyna claims that she got fired because of Stephanie. She was probably butthurt so tried to paint WWE to be the bad guys. Jim Ross and Chyna’s own sister said WWE let her go because she demanded a ridiculous salary and higher merchandise profits so they said fuck you. Who’s telling the truth? No one knows.

 

[CakeWalker]

I have no problem going off topic though - I am making the point that in any debate. You feel you have a God given right to go off topic. But if anyone else does so - you basically cry about it. You also claim to be the refuter of revision - but you literally proved yourself as a revisionist. This topic had nothing to do with Chyna originally - but you changed the title to suit your needs. Thats pretty shady, I think Russo would call that a snakey move.

 

[Deezy]

Also did you just change the topic title - after you went off topic.
Isn't that a bit hypocritical? That a revisionist move - changing the OP to suit your needs.

Remember when Chyna called her and Xpacs sex tape a "rape tape"? Even though she requested and actually edited the thing herself from the people who "released it"?

Pepperidge farm remembers

 

[Deezy]

Talk about hypocrisy... lol

Doesn't negate your own pal.

 

[RLStern]

I have no problem going off topic though - I am making the point that in any debate. You feel you have a God given right to go off topic. But if anyone else does so - you basically cry about it. You also claim to be the refuter of revision - but you literally proved yourself as a revisionist. This topic had nothing to do with Chyna originally - but you changed the title to suit your needs. Thats pretty shady, I think Russo would call that a snakey move.

I didn’t go off topic initially... you did. I responded to it... then changed the title thread to keep it in topic... too bad.