The Russo-Ukrainian War Thread (FKA Political Thread)

[Alexa]

 

[Jacob Fox]

You can carry a virus without having symptoms of it. This is true for EVERY virus in existence.

So wearing masks makes sense because you could have Covid without knowing it.

But let's just skip all of that. And there is one simple thing to think of. It is so freaking simple to wear a mask and if wearing that mask helps even ONE person not get Covic, it's worth 1000 people wearing the masks.

Anyone against the masks is just being a big freaking cry baby and they need to grow up.

Now, I know Red isn't going to agree with me and I am not going to debate this because it's futile.

But every time I see someone bitching about masks, I think the same thing "What a wussy little fraidy cat."

 

[CakeWalker]

Dude refused to offer me an answer - when I provided him with receipts.

 

[Rosie]

You can carry a virus without having symptoms of it. This is true for EVERY virus in existence.

So wearing masks makes sense because you could have Covid without knowing it.

But let's just skip all of that. And there is one simple thing to think of. It is so freaking simple to wear a mask and if wearing that mask helps even ONE person not get Covic, it's worth 1000 people wearing the masks.

Anyone against the masks is just being a big freaking cry baby and they need to grow up.

Now, I know Red isn't going to agree with me and I am not going to debate this because it's futile.

But every time I see someone bitching about masks, I think the same thing "What a wussy little fraidy cat."

I'm wearing a mask in a 3-hour class and this is a class full of law students. Not a single member of the class is complaining about the fact they have to wear a mask. Sure maybe sometimes we need to speak louder, but we're managing. IT IS ONLY A CLOTH, IT IS HELPFUL! IF THE DOCTOR WHO CUT MY GRANDFATHER'S LEG OFF WHO WORE A MASK ALL DAY WHILE DOING IT WAS HERE, HE WOULD CALL YOU A FUCKING PUSSY!

 

[CakeWalker]

 

[InSaNe]

I wouldn't want to be redboy right now.

 

[Jacob Fox]

I wouldn't want to be redboy right now.

He has indicated that he believes that Joe Biden won the election by cheating. Anyone who believes that immediately loses any credibility when it comes to analyzing facts.

"The main stream media lies! Morons on YouTube who make up BS are more informed than the evil media!"

It's ridiculous. You cannot debate with someone who unilaterally dismisses any media he doesn't agree with.

Anti vaxxers are morons. Plain and simple. No one has ever explained the stupidity of anti vaxxers more than Penn Jilette.



You know, for years I believed in ghosts, psychics, witchcraft and all of that stuff. I was obsessed with the paranormal. I have seen several ghosts in my life and have practiced voodoo and I was convinced all this was real.

I am epileptic. I get partial seizures that cause me to have visual and audio halluciations. When I take my medicine, I don't see ghosts. I don't hear voices.

I talk to author Mercedes Lackey every now and then. Just like me, she is a hardcore skeptic. But like me, we wanted to believe in magic and ghosts. But when you search for decades and you get absolutely NO evidence, you have to come to the conclusion that the evidence presents. There is no such thing as the paranormal.

It was difficult for me to come to that conclusion. I mean, decades of loving that stuff and I HAD to follow the evidence that clearly doesn't support the existence of the paranormal.

Anti vaxxers, election fraud believers and mask haters refuse to acknowledge the OVERWHELMING evidence that they are WRONG. They reject any facts that they don't agree with and try to discredit the people who present that evidence. They decide it is "fake news" simply because it's not what they want to hear.

In my 30's, I had to come to the conclusion that the paranormal doesn't exist. I GREW UP. I acknowledged the evidence. These wussy little cry babies who believe the election was stolen, that mask mandates are comparable to the Holocaust and need to grow up.

This is funny. Trump supporters are against taking the vaccine. But Trump takes ALL of the credit for making the vaccine. His supporters give him the credit for making the vaccine. BUT THEY WON'T TAKE THE VACCINE THAT THEY BELIEVE THEIR FURER MADE.

There is no rational thinking. And that is why it's useless to argue.

You'll notice when I post about politics, I try to not quote posts from other people if I know they are not really willing to accept evidence they don't agree with.

Seriously, these people are risking their lives for no other reason than to spite Joe Biden. If these people continue dying to prove their incorrect point, then they will win a Darwin Aeard. When someone's supporters die to prove a point, THAT PERSON HAS LESS SUPPORTERS!! It makes no sense.
They need to grow the hell up.

 

[Jacob Fox]

I should add that I will not take any of this political talk out in the other sections of the forum. I strongly disagree with Redboy, but that doesn't affect how we talk about wrestling... even though we often disagree on that too. lol

 

[Redboy123@]

Lots been said about me by people and alot isn't a true depiction of my opinions.

I'm an anti vaxxer because I go against the mask mandates. That doesn't make sense.

I think Joe Biden won the election fraudulently because I said I have come across election fraud in my life. That doesn't make sense to me.

Can't challenge the mainstream narrative a little bit without being labelled as a radical anti vaxxer. I wouldn't mind being called an anti vaxxer if I was actually one lol

 

[Bobby Barrows]

One of those folks huh.

 

[InSaNe]

I agree with your over arching posts, but I have mixed opinions. Just hear me out.

He has indicated that he believes that Joe Biden won the election by cheating. Anyone who believes that immediately loses any credibility when it comes to analyzing facts.

In this instance, I will side with Trump, and this was only obvious from the get-go. Within' 24 hours of the election, tons of stories came out about the Democrats' dirty ground game. There's even videos showing them violating constitutional voting. Like PAYING people whether its money, or so called "perks." Other stories including criminals withholding votes. USPS throwing votes out. I am a former USPS employee, and I can confirm those stories. They DO throw out "trash" mail. When a higher up tells you to throw "x" out, you are LEGALLY able to. Its the government. And secondly, I voted for Obama both terms, for 2 reasons: he was smart, but... I was also paid. Yup.

But, I won't scream "stolen" election, without telling you what occurred. And they are STILL dirty during the Biden administration; they are secretly ushering immigrants INTO our country BY HAND, to what? Get votes in places like swing states. SELLING crack pipes. I'm not kidding about the second one.

"The main stream media lies! Morons on YouTube who make up BS are more informed than the evil media!"

Well, its true that they lie, and its out in the open. But people have opinions, and they're allowed to.

It's ridiculous. You cannot debate with someone who unilaterally dismisses any media he doesn't agree with.

I agree with you. Most of the time, they will ignore what you're saying, and go on with their willful ignorance. I had SO MANY arguments with dumb, ignorant people on YouTube. Best leave them where they belong: Whining to themselves

Anti vaxxers are morons. Plain and simple. No one has ever explained the stupidity of anti vaxxers more than Penn Jilette.

I have nothing to add here. I'll get to this later.

You know, for years I believed in ghosts, psychics, witchcraft and all of that stuff. I was obsessed with the paranormal. I have seen several ghosts in my life and have practiced voodoo and I was convinced all this was real.

I believe in God. I believe in the paranormal. I slightly believe in witchcraft, some of it, not all of it. Like, you don't fuck with ouija boards. I'm keeping 10 foot away from that garbage. Look, if you want to invite spirits that want to harm you? That's on you, idiot. (I meant in general.)

I am epileptic. I get partial seizures that cause me to have visual and audio halluciations. When I take my medicine, I don't see ghosts. I don't hear voices.

I don't have these but I do have visions, dreams, as if I was there. Sometimes I even get premonitions in dreams, like stuff that will happen days, hours from the dream. These are called downloads in the psychic world. And hearing voices isn't really bad, they are vague, but they are downloads.

What bothers me isn't the dreams, its the repeated out of nowhere jolts, feelings, and visions. These are HEAVY, lucid downloads. Like who wants to see someone from 2003, I mean, I do, but I don't want to think old stuff. I loved her, but its the past. I don't want to dwell on it. But the lucid dreams keep coming. God. Frustrating. Don't get me wrong these feelings are awesome, but they are painful as in hopelessness.

I talk to author Mercedes Lackey every now and then. Just like me, she is a hardcore skeptic. But like me, we wanted to believe in magic and ghosts. But when you search for decades and you get absolutely NO evidence, you have to come to the conclusion that the evidence presents. There is no such thing as the paranormal.

I wouldn't dismiss ghosts. I believe in ghosts, but not those conspiracy theories. For example, magic? I don't believe. I believe in the paranormal, but magic is just pushing it.

It was difficult for me to come to that conclusion. I mean, decades of loving that stuff and I HAD to follow the evidence that clearly doesn't support the existence of the paranormal.

Its because you aren't picky at the time. Its more common sense than anything, really. I watch Ghost Adventures, and I believe in the show. My mom attended Zak Bagan's museum, and was days away from the filming of the collapse Zak showed. That show is the only show that seems real. Most of the other shows - they don't have the same feeling. I slept through some of the other shows. There's a reason. Some of them are gimmicks, some of them just are bullshit. I call bullshit on some of them. Like the Osbornes.

Anti vaxxers, election fraud believers and mask haters refuse to acknowledge the OVERWHELMING evidence that they are WRONG. They reject any facts that they don't agree with and try to discredit the people who present that evidence. They decide it is "fake news" simply because it's not what they want to hear.

That's just it. They don't want to hear it.

In my 30's, I had to come to the conclusion that the paranormal doesn't exist. I GREW UP. I acknowledged the evidence. These wussy little cry babies who believe the election was stolen, that mask mandates are comparable to the Holocaust and need to grow up.

Wait, there are people who compare MASK MANDATES to.... the Holocaust!? What. The most these Mask Mandates are is totalitarian, but HOLOCAUST!? These people are far gone.

This is funny. Trump supporters are against taking the vaccine. But Trump takes ALL of the credit for making the vaccine. His supporters give him the credit for making the vaccine. BUT THEY WON'T TAKE THE VACCINE THAT THEY BELIEVE THEIR FURER MADE.

Actually, they're more against the Vaccine Mandates. However, I will not reject the idea that there are people who are Trump supporters who DON'T want the vaccine. I seen crazy Trump supporters. They make me look bad. I'm one of them; the Trump supporter. Call me right wing? Fuck you. (General, again, people.) I have value to bring to you. I will also listen to lefties, and I have. As long as you're not this Socialist Left... I will listen. But be respectful.

There is no rational thinking. And that is why it's useless to argue.

Yup.

You'll notice when I post about politics, I try to not quote posts from other people if I know they are not really willing to accept evidence they don't agree with.

I try, but I will give up if the other person like redboy, who just won't listen. Its exhausting.

Seriously, these people are risking their lives for no other reason than to spite Joe Biden. If these people continue dying to prove their incorrect point, then they will win a Darwin Aeard. When someone's supporters die to prove a point, THAT PERSON HAS LESS SUPPORTERS!! It makes no sense.
They need to grow the hell up.

I'll finish this off later. I'm sleepy.

 

[CakeWalker]

@Redboy123@

Why would you post an article from 2020 and say finally the CDC have come out and said it?

Masks and Respirators

Wear a mask with the best fit, protection, and comfort for you.

www.cdc.gov

This is updated as of January 28th, 2022. And considering, you have used the CDC as validation of viewpoints - you can no longer reject them as a trusted source, to not fit your narrative. A key part from the article states:

• Masks and respirators are effective at reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, when worn consistently and correctly.

 

[Jacob Fox]

@Redboy123@

Why would you post an article from 2020 and say finally the CDC have come out and said it?

Masks and Respirators

Wear a mask with the best fit, protection, and comfort for you.

www.cdc.gov

This is updated as of January 28th, 2022. And considering, you have used the CDC as validation of viewpoints - you can no longer reject them as a trusted source, to not fit your narrative. A key part from the article states:

• Masks and respirators are effective at reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, when worn consistently and correctly.

Because that's what they do. They find things out of context and try to add them to context.

 

[Redboy123@]

@Redboy123@

Why would you post an article from 2020 and say finally the CDC have come out and said it?

Masks and Respirators

Wear a mask with the best fit, protection, and comfort for you.

www.cdc.gov

This is updated as of January 28th, 2022. And considering, you have used the CDC as validation of viewpoints - you can no longer reject them as a trusted source, to not fit your narrative. A key part from the article states:

• Masks and respirators are effective at reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, when worn consistently and correctly.

I acted impulsley so apologies.

I don't use the cdc as a validation point I have no respect for them. But I chose to take the liss out them by saying the finally came out and said. If you think I use the cdc as a source of information then I will like to let you know I don't.

Those guys coming out and saying that is jokes

 

[Redboy123@]

worn consistently and correctly

I've not yet met one mother fucked that wears it correctly.

If any of you follow the proper precautions then fair play to you. I doubt you do though. You can't preach about wearing a mask if you are not going around with sterilised plastic bag for your mask to go into.
I know one guy who actually does that.