The Political Thread

[Shane]

... I guess Watergate never comes to mind, huh.

Obviously I know all about it. Idk the name of the person who did the reporting. Now I do lol

 

[Chris]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/10/08/supreme-court-ghost-guns-biden-rules/

The Supreme Court seemed poised on Tuesday to uphold a major gun regulation imposed by the Biden administration that requires background checks, serial numbers and sales records for the nearly untraceable firearms known as ghost guns.

A majority of the justices seemed skeptical of arguments by gun owners, parts makers and Second Amendment groups that the government exceeded its authority in 2022 when it imposed new rules for the weapons. Their comments came during oral arguments before the high court in the case known as Garland v. VanDerStok.

The weapons, which have been used in a growing number of crimes over the past decade, are typically assembled at home using parts, kits or pieces printed by 3D printers. Manufacturers assert they do not have to comply with regulations on other firearms because ghost guns don’t meet the legal definition of a firearm under the nation’s main gun control law.

 

[Grim]

"How dare we have to do something reasonable!"

Classic gun owner argument against common sense gun laws.

 

[Shane]

The fact that people are so adamant about owning untraceable guns and don’t want strict gun laws is concerning in of itself. Makes it look like they’re plotting something.

 

[Chris]

I can only speak anecdotally but people in East Texas don't even understand why private gun sales need to be reported and guns need to be registered to the person that actually has possession. They don't think the government should have any info about their private lives and friends can trade guns whenever they want, so I can imagine the people that make the homemade guns also have a similar mindset

 

[Comrade Khan]

I can only speak anecdotally but people in East Texas don't even understand why private gun sales need to be reported and guns need to be registered to the person that actually has possession. They don't think the government should have any info about their private lives and friends can trade guns whenever they want, so I can imagine the people that make the homemade guns also have a similar mindset

do they not understand being able to trace guns back to crime by law enforcement or do they just believe that only handguns used by gangsters are the problem?

 

[Chris]

Most would prefer to handle their problems themselves than get the cops involved at all. They only really support cops who are far away from their areas when they're told to. Everyone hates their local cops except for their one friend that is one usually

 

[Comrade Khan]

Most would prefer to handle their problems themselves than get the cops involved at all. They only really support cops who are far away from their areas when they're told to. Everyone hates their local cops except for their one friend that is one usually

so they would rather a fictional lawless state where they are the heroes of their own stories like they are in their minds?

 

[Grim]

so they would rather a fictional lawless state where they are the heroes of their own stories like they are in their minds?

Yes. They'd rather shoot a man dead for a perceived wrong than let the authorities deal with it. Because "Muh Freedumbs".

 

[Comrade Khan]

Yes. They'd rather shoot a man dead for a perceived wrong than let the authorities deal with it. Because "Muh Freedumbs".

it's all these dudes who day dream about being a super hero saving people

 

[Grim]

it's all these dudes who day dream about being a super hero saving people

I think what makes it worse is that these are the kind of people that when faced with a legitimate threat will freeze up and get even more people killed because they think they're heroes in their mind but really they're cowards with guns who'd get shot by a criminal before they have a chance to play hero.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I think what makes it worse is that these are the kind of people that when faced with a legitimate threat will freeze up and get even more people killed because they think they're heroes in their mind but really they're cowards with guns who'd get shot by a criminal before they have a chance to play hero.

I agree but tbf I think 99% of ppl would freeze too

 

[Grim]

I agree but tbf I think 99% of ppl would freeze too

I'm not disagreeing but largely pointing out that they're hypocrites and are incapable of practicing what they preach about "A good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun."

 

[Shane]

I'm not disagreeing but largely pointing out that they're hypocrites and are incapable of practicing what they preach about "A good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun."

you can stop a gun with a gun but an even better idea is not having the gun to begin with. And even if you do stop them they probably would’ve had a chance to hurt or kill someone before you do.

 

[Shane]

I can only speak anecdotally but people in East Texas don't even understand why private gun sales need to be reported and guns need to be registered to the person that actually has possession. They don't think the government should have any info about their private lives and friends can trade guns whenever they want, so I can imagine the people that make the homemade guns also have a similar mindset

How would anyone trace a private sale though? If two people meet in the woods and one person gives the other $100 for a gun how would anyone know