The Political Thread

[Barry Poppins]

Absolutely beyond a shambolic decision for Supreme Court. This one's gonna go down as one of those Plessy/Fergusen, Dred Scott decisions that are just objectively terrible in every facet.

 

[Samoa Looch]

• Russian invasion of Ukraine
  • Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin declares that he will "stop" Russian military leadership as fighting breaks out between members of Wagner Group and the Russian military, after the latter allegedly attacked Wagner forces. (The Moscow Times) (The Guardian)
  • The Federal Security Service begins a mutiny investigation into Yevgeny Prigozhin, saying "we demand that unlawful actions be stopped immediately". Russian President Vladimir Putin has been briefed on the situation, with "necessary measures" being taken, according to Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov. (TASS) (TASS)

 

[Barry Poppins]

Russia falling apart? What do ya know

 

[Samoa Looch]

I mean... "falling apart" might be a bit of a dream, but it's definitely comical to see. Definitely something out of a movie, like you hire a mercenary terroristical group and then when they start trying to fuck you up -> *insert Pikachu face meme*

 

[Comrade Khan]

they will just turn into a Chinese Vassal State

 

[Alexa]

Russia falling apart would actually be bad. Mena it would get putin out and all, but then you create a power vaccum and you will have another black october

 

[Samoa Looch]

• Russian invasion of Ukraine
  • Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin declares that he will "stop" Russian military leadership as fighting breaks out between members of Wagner Group and the Russian military, after the latter allegedly attacked Wagner forces. (The Moscow Times) (The Guardian)
  • The Federal Security Service begins a mutiny investigation into Yevgeny Prigozhin, saying "we demand that unlawful actions be stopped immediately". Russian President Vladimir Putin has been briefed on the situation, with "necessary measures" being taken, according to Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov. (TASS) (TASS)

More stuff happened:

• Yevgeny Prigozhin says that a "huge number" of his forces have been killed in airstrikes by Russian government forces, and personally blames Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu for ordering the attacks. He also calls for a "march of justice" and asks Russian soldiers "not to resist". However, the defence ministry rejects these claims, stating that they are "not true and are an international provocation". (BBC News) (CBC News)
• BBC News Russian reports that there are roadblocks on the M4 highway between Moscow and Voronezh, with the FSB and other security services being placed on high alert in the Moscow Oblast. (BBC News Russian)

 

[Alexa]

So if I reading this right Wagener Group has turned on the Russian government? If so that is huge

 

[Deezy]

So a coup is being staged?

Russian Mafia going to back to the 90s.

 

[Alexa]

If what i am reaidng is right than yeah Wagner Group, which is PMC in Russia and is basically Putin's guard are turning on him and others, Which is like what happend during Black october in 93

For reference this is the event i am talking about

1993 Russian constitutional crisis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Samoa Looch]

I mean who knows what exactly is going on. Even with the details we have, there is still a big amount mostly coming from Russian media, I think. ...but yea, like I said earlier. They shook hands with some terroristic mercenaries and now *insert shocked Pikachu meme*

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About the Sub


...and that's pretty much just the lowball very early numbers.

 

[Samoa Looch]

Yep, this is gonna be something

• Russian invasion of Ukraine
  • Wagner Group mutiny
    • Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin says his forces are entering Rostov Oblast, Russia, and that border guards have "stepped aside" to allow his forces to advance on Rostov-on-Don. Rostov Governor Vasily Golubev asks residents to remain indoors. (CNN)
    • The Wagner Group seize and occupy the city of Rostov-on-Don as clashes surge across the province. (9News)

 

[Barry Poppins]

Yep, this is gonna be something

TLDR Wagner's going to end up forming a breakaway state.

Jesus Christ, Outer Heaven might actually become a thing.

 

[Samoa Looch]

TLDR Wagner's going to end up forming a breakaway state.

Jesus Christ, Outer Heaven might actually become a thing.

Possible. I mean there's a lot of Schadenfreude involved, but at the same time no one should want or be fine with Wagner taking over any amount of land.

 

[Barry Poppins]

Possible. I mean there's a lot of Schadenfreude involved, but at the same time no one should want or be fine with Wagner taking over any amount of land.

Breakaway states from Russia is good tbh. It means less power is centralized onto Moscow and that these other states will be able to make their own decisions. Ukraine would also be the other major influential power in any case, IMO.