The Name's Bond... James Bond MAFIA: Game Thread

[Leon TrotSky]

i have? compared to what?

Compared to the level that's expected of your reputation.

 

[Tweet]

If you think it's possible, why then no confidence?

Because VT claims never inspire confidence and instead evoke an attitude of "let's lynch him, worst case we lose a VT but have a wagon to look back on". I gotta think about this some more because in Barrys last game every member of the scum team had a claimable role. In a team of 4 we had a PGO, a Jailkeeper, a Lie Detector and a Mason. With that in mind

unvote

 

[Shawn]

oh my god you suck is when you vote someone for voting you essentially. that is the actual definition but people use it too broadly to just mean voting someone back for voting you.

actual OMGUS: "this person voted me so ima voted them"
how people use it: "i was expecting them and now they're suspecting me for suspecting them even tho they've given points in their defense as to why i might be scum pushing them"

Got it. Thanks.

 

[Odo]

well that claim does nothing for me.

@Odo ?

eh, I need to think.

Mitch, could you post a read list?

 

[RDK]

So you are denying spending a good portion of the first few hours of the game asking him questions that didn't really go nowhere? I multiquoted all of it for you.

There were a couple posts where I exclaimed my confusion at his explanation of not wanting to be modkilled and then was interested in why he hadn't just told us that was his 'thing' straight up given that he was up front about having receipts for that. I just didn't see the modkill spec as relevant. FTR the questions kinda did go somewhere because I ended up being able to refer over to another game and get some clarity on his play. The questions could just as easily have lead to a vote if I had of been convinced that it was a direction I liked.

 

[Odo]

Haza, a readlist and some thoughts if you would

 

[Odo]

Brutus too

your opinions on each other are crucial too

 

[Tweet]

i mean your reasoning was my reasoning.

he came in awkward and didnt vote a joke vote which was weird and then you built from that.

reasons dont manifest out of thin air, but wagons on town typically do whereas wagons on scum are harder to come by because of teammates. do you disagree?

if i dont give you a better alternative direction what will you do, push me? what would be the point of souring all the directions without giving my own?

Yes, I sussed Brutus for it and then he went and asked me a couple times whether actually voting Smark will appease me. That kind of attitude is the exact opposite of what he did two games ago, where as town he acted weird and when people started sussing and voting him for it, he actually doubled down on it to a point where Poyser said that as scum, he'd probably quit doing the thing that makes people sus him. Also Brutus being apprehensive about voting people is something I've seen happen in Odos 2019 Best Hits And Misses Mafia where Brutus was Mafia. These are the two main points I got going against him. Oh and also the fact that I needed to tell him what he does as town before he actually started doing it.

I wouldn't say this manifested out of thin air, but is an evaluation of his play compared to previous games and I'd like to think my conclusions are reasonable.

The point of derailing all wagons without giving ideas of your own is to keep people from actually lynching. If you're legitimately convinced none of the people we're pushing are scum, the only way I would then think that that is a town mindset is if on the other hand you were to actually try and catch scum yourself.

And yeah, I might try myself at pushing you if I think you're scum.

 

[Tweet]

I shouldn't have to spell this out but if Brutus is scum, I'm fairly certain that so is Magic.

 

[Smart Marx]

Because VT claims never inspire confidence and instead evoke an attitude of "let's lynch him, worst case we lose a VT but have a wagon to look back on". I gotta think about this some more because in Barrys last game every member of the scum team had a claimable role. In a team of 4 we had a PGO, a Jailkeeper, a Lie Detector and a Mason. With that in mind

unvote

I'd like to think Barry would give them either claimable roles, a janitor or fakes/safes to use.

If Mitch is the janitor, maybe, but that's a huge coincidence.

 

[Odo]

Because VT claims never inspire confidence and instead evoke an attitude of "let's lynch him, worst case we lose a VT but have a wagon to look back on". I gotta think about this some more because in Barrys last game every member of the scum team had a claimable role. In a team of 4 we had a PGO, a Jailkeeper, a Lie Detector and a Mason. With that in mind

unvote

I think theres an element of truth to this BUT I dont like playing 'guess the mod' especially when I intentionally try to sabotage that line of thinking when I host games myself.

In other words, Im gonna let what Mitch does over the next 4 hours or so decide

 

[NotBrutus]

Brutus too

your opinions on each other are crucial too

Haza/Mitch - Opposite alignments
Smark - Town until further notice
Magic - Town
Jeff - Town
Sky - Leaning scum
Shawn - Town
Odo - Null because they aren’t insulting people like last game, would have to look further into this
Tweets - Null
Rugrat - Null
Big Man - Scum because inactive

Missed some people but yea here’s the jist, boyo

I shouldn't have to spell this out but if Brutus is scum, I'm fairly certain that so is Magic.

I have the opposite opinion.

 

[NotBrutus]

Yes, I sussed Brutus for it and then he went and asked me a couple times whether actually voting Smark will appease me. That kind of attitude is the exact opposite of what he did two games ago, where as town he acted weird and when people started sussing and voting him for it, he actually doubled down on it to a point where Poyser said that as scum, he'd probably quit doing the thing that makes people sus him. Also Brutus being apprehensive about voting people is something I've seen happen in Odos 2019 Best Hits And Misses Mafia where Brutus was Mafia. These are the two main points I got going against him. Oh and also the fact that I needed to tell him what he does as town before he actually started doing it.

I wouldn't say this manifested out of thin air, but is an evaluation of his play compared to previous games and I'd like to think my conclusions are reasonable.

The point of derailing all wagons without giving ideas of your own is to keep people from actually lynching. If you're legitimately convinced none of the people we're pushing are scum, the only way I would then think that that is a town mindset is if on the other hand you were to actually try and catch scum yourself.

And yeah, I might try myself at pushing you if I think you're scum.

 

[NotBrutus]

RIP Neil Peart

 

[Comrade Khan]

Haza/Mitch - Opposite alignments
Smark - Town until further notice
Magic - Town
Jeff - Town
Sky - Leaning scum
Shawn - Town
Odo - Null because they aren’t insulting people like last game, would have to look further into this
Tweets - Null
Rugrat - Null
Big Man - Scum because inactive

Missed some people but yea here’s the jist, boyo



I have the opposite opinion.

not a great read here considering that's only valid when people come after him and that hasn't happened. If that's you're only way to read Odo, yikes.