The Dark Knight Rises

[ThatGuyFromNukemHigh]

Toy Story is better than Star Wars, what are you 5? When you are allowed to watch non-Disney movies maybe I will listen to your opinions on movies.

Godfather ruined their chances by making such a horrible 3rd part, Lord of the Rings had so many issues I think something as simple as taking out the Scouring of the Shire ruined the end of RotK(also Merry kills the Witch King, not Eowyn, thanks to the magical short swords the hobbits were given by Tom Bombadil in act 1), with A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi each movie individually felt like its own(unlike LotR), and told a grand story. I will admit that the way George Lucas has been lately has tarnished the name(why have we needed 4 re-releases with newer special effects?), but the movies are still great works of art that didnt need a cast of superstars to get asses in the theatres, 2 established actors was all they needed, everyone else was essentially a newbie.

 

[EffectsofRaven]

Wow... Sorry but is it me do we have someone with inflated ego and thinks Toy Story is only good for Children?

Who the fuck are you? Because you're a Batman mark and got a shit load of comics, you know it? Please, I got something like 10+ Arces in my collection, War Crimes, Knightfall, Just got No Mans Land, Dark Knight Rises, Batman RIP to name some of them and I don't come in here and try to make myself feel superior because I know one guy on this forum, who would kick your ass at Batman knowledge.

So just quit trying to act like the know it all, when people are entitle to their opinion and stop belittling them because they enjoy the films.

 

[Deezy]

Children of the 80s like Star Wars.

I think Star Wars is the best trilogy of all time. I also didn't like Lord Of The Rings, it was extremely boring and overwrought with gay undertones.

 

[The Cork]

Watched it (finally) today.

Anne Hathaway was fit.

Bane was kewl.

Hardly any Christian Bale was win.

Still prefer the cartoony Tim Burton ones to these more sirius efforts, but still a good watch, had no problems to moan about.

 

[ThatGuyFromNukemHigh]

Wow... Sorry but is it me do we have someone with inflated ego and thinks Toy Story is only good for Children?

Who the fuck are you? Because you're a Batman mark and got a shit load of comics, you know it? Please, I got something like 10+ Arces in my collection, War Crimes, Knightfall, Just got No Mans Land, Dark Knight Rises, Batman RIP to name some of them and I don't come in here and try to make myself feel superior because I know one guy on this forum, who would kick your ass at Batman knowledge.

So just quit trying to act like the know it all, when people are entitle to their opinion and stop belittling them because they enjoy the films.

Contradiction much?

Anyways, finally got a chance to see it, and it did not live up to the hype that was surrounding this movie, if you know the comics the twist really wont surprise you. Bane was at times really hard to understand, and that did bring down the speaches he had. Selina's story seemed very Year One, and I found it really came off as her & Blake's origins. It was still a good movie, and I am glad I didnt wait to see it, but for this to be the final act, it seemed as if more questions were asked than answered.

 

[Heisenberg]

I didn't find Bane hard to understand at all.. And I found his voice awesome.

 

[Darth Shizzel]

^I know what you're saying but this is a different continuity so Nolan gets a pass IMHO.

See but thats the thing if your not at least going to stick era of the comic then why make the movie that's what bugs me

 

[Keith]

Toy Story is better than Star Wars, what are you 5? When you are allowed to watch non-Disney movies maybe I will listen to your opinions on movies.

Godfather ruined their chances by making such a horrible 3rd part, Lord of the Rings had so many issues I think something as simple as taking out the Scouring of the Shire ruined the end of RotK(also Merry kills the Witch King, not Eowyn, thanks to the magical short swords the hobbits were given by Tom Bombadil in act 1), with A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi each movie individually felt like its own(unlike LotR), and told a grand story. I will admit that the way George Lucas has been lately has tarnished the name(why have we needed 4 re-releases with newer special effects?), but the movies are still great works of art that didnt need a cast of superstars to get asses in the theatres, 2 established actors was all they needed, everyone else was essentially a newbie.

Fair point if you want to defend Star Wars (by the way deezy I was a child in the 80s and don't like Star wars) but your other points make no sense. First of all most trilogies have at least one weak part so for example the fact the third Godfather might have been weak does not take away from how great the other two were so overall it has to be considered a great trilogy. I actually think all three of LOTR were great films with two being slightly the weakest and three being a bit too drawn out at the end, but I don't think there is a bad film in there.

The beauty of Toy Story is that the plot and many of the jokes work for an adult audience too and they are classic family films. Plus if you have a issue with classic Disney then frankly you have a problem with cinema.

I also love Nolan's Batman films and the Three Colours films I mentioned are French art house films so that blows your threoy straight out off the water.

 

[ThatGuyFromNukemHigh]

My problem with LotR, and there is no denying this. Each movie did not feel like its own movie, it felt like a part of the story, with Star Wars each movie was its own story, and told an even bigger story over the course of the 3. Then there is the fact that Luke, Leia, Han, & Chewy did more than just walk.

Toy Story is classic Disney? pretty sure thats a modern Disney story.

I too could go on about independant movies, theres only about 70 Troma titles sitting in the other room, but the fact remains that nobody will ever hear about them, so there is no chance they could even be considered for best trilogy. So commenting about indy "art" movies doesnt prove a point at all.

 

[Pete]

Toy Story is better than Star Wars, what are you 5? When you are allowed to watch non-Disney movies maybe I will listen to your opinions on movies.

Godfather ruined their chances by making such a horrible 3rd part, Lord of the Rings had so many issues I think something as simple as taking out the Scouring of the Shire ruined the end of RotK(also Merry kills the Witch King, not Eowyn, thanks to the magical short swords the hobbits were given by Tom Bombadil in act 1), with A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi each movie individually felt like its own(unlike LotR), and told a grand story. I will admit that the way George Lucas has been lately has tarnished the name(why have we needed 4 re-releases with newer special effects?), but the movies are still great works of art that didnt need a cast of superstars to get asses in the theatres, 2 established actors was all they needed, everyone else was essentially a newbie.

Yeah I wanted to see Tom Bombadil and the Scouring of the Shire too, but you can't have everything, and Peter Jackson did a good job cramming in as much as possible while still making it understandable.

And Toy Story was released in 1995. If the PS1 is now "vintage", Toy Story is now "classic".

Also, Bane WAS hard to understand. But that may have had to do with the shitty sound system of the theatre I watched it in.

 

[Pete]

Plus if you have a issue with classic Disney then frankly you have a problem with cinema.

Interested to know your take on that sector of geekdom who thinks DIZNEY WUZ EVAL OMG and finds sexual references in all of their movies. Personally, they bug the shit out of me.

@GuyFromNukemHigh I like you, but now you're trying WAY too hard to look arty and cool. I have a VHS tape of Tromeo and Juliet too, and I've watched a few of their other movies (as well as a couple of Ed Woods, all but one of the pre-LOTR Peter Jacksons, and a LOT of indies you probably never heard of) but I don't go around pulling rank on people. Well, except for just now, but you get my point.

 

[ThatGuyFromNukemHigh]

I brought up the Troma films because someone else decided to try and bring indy trilogies into the arguement, which as I already pointed out is never going to get the recognition movies like Batman, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, or Godfather have. And thats half the fun of indy movies, I have probably seen a bunch that you have never even heard of, and thats fine, indy movies are more a social activity like tape trading & mix tapes.

Personally the only vintage consoles are Collecovision, Intellevision, Atari, Sega Mastersystem, & NES, or anything older. Basically the 8-bit era. I have an issue calling something that hasnt even reached 20 a classic. And in the case of Disney movies, I have really hard time believing Toy Story would be up there with Pinocchio, Peter Pan, Cinderella, or Snow White which are the classic Disney movies.

 

[Pete]

I personally think it would rank. I rank The Lion King as the best animated movie of all time, and it was made in 1994.

I get your argument about the consoles, and I agree.

 

[Keith]

Interested to know your take on that sector of geekdom who thinks DIZNEY WUZ EVAL OMG and finds sexual references in all of their movies. Personally, they bug the shit out of me.@GuyFromNukemHigh I like you, but now you're trying WAY too hard to look arty and cool. I have a VHS tape of Tromeo and Juliet too, and I've watched a few of their other movies (as well as a couple of Ed Woods, all but one of the pre-LOTR Peter Jacksons, and a LOT of indies you probably never heard of) but I don't go around pulling rank on people. Well, except for just now, but you get my point.

Don't even know where to start with that one lol.

I was only quoting Toy Story as classic Disney because it is an example of Disney at its best it had nothing to do with how old the films are.

Also I thought the point of a trilogy was to have the story over lapping over the three films, that is what was so exciting about the way The Dark Knight ended it set up TDKR perfectly. I agree that they should stand alone as seprate parts also Star Wars are just shit movies.

 

[Keith]

My problem with LotR, and there is no denying this. Each movie did not feel like its own movie, it felt like a part of the story, with Star Wars each movie was its own story, and told an even bigger story over the course of the 3. Then there is the fact that Luke, Leia, Han, & Chewy did more than just walk.

Toy Story is classic Disney? pretty sure thats a modern Disney story.

I too could go on about independant movies, theres only about 70 Troma titles sitting in the other room, but the fact remains that nobody will ever hear about them, so there is no chance they could even be considered for best trilogy. So commenting about indy "art" movies doesnt prove a point at all.

I metioned that the Three Colours films are art house because of your remark about only respecting my opinion when I stopped watching only Disney films (which you have no foundation for so what a baffling statement).

Also don't be narrow minded if we only judged the qauilty of trilogies based on their box office appeal then frankly we would struggle to name many good ones at all. I don't care that the Dark Knight was one of the highest grossest movies ever just that it was a great film, its about what these films do for you not weather their widely known or not. Would you not say the Evil Dead films are cult movies? Yet they still have a big appeal to a certain audience which is kind of what cinema is all about.