The 2024 United States Presidential Election Thread

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Because in the US, you only have so many rights, and if you're accused of being an illegal immigrant, you don't necessarily have the right to a trial by jury.
 

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I would be lying if I said I knew much about yours but ours is both fairly easy but also massively backlogged. and our enforcement is almost non existant. much like America, we need a gigantic overhaul.

you know, I also thought of something today. I suppose it does not apply to like the more extreme people. Like people in Texas with Chris sound intense. idk. But how come like irl I've met so many right leaning people but we get along and usually dislike the same things. rarely talk about controversial stuff. but if we met online we might hate each other. I feel like while maybe there is a lot of jerks out there...one on one a lot of people are also good and kind. Maybe misled. scared. wtv.

It sucks that hate and toxicity seems to be the fashion of the day, at least during this decade. I know it's been a hard day for me but I do genuinely hope we one day find a way out of this mess of a planet
For some reason, the Internet intensifies division, it makes people polarized, and I couldn’t tell you why because I’ve also never had a bad interaction with someone in real life over politics. In fact, I rarely know anybody’s politics in real life. It’s a shame. Because we can more often than not find common ground over what divides us.
 

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Smark should actually join the Social Progressive movement, we'll become the Roosevelts of this day fighting for something
 

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Immigration should be strict, but more streamlined tbh. Citizenship and work visas should be easier to get, and while there should be more border security, there should be hundreds more legal points of entry.
I’m inclined to agree with you, but America already lets in more people than any other country. We can’t overburden ourselves.

I would happily, though allow more legal people, though if we actually crack down on illegal immigration.
 

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It's why I scoff at people saying they don't want politics in their wrestling. WWE has inserted politics into their wrestling since Hogan. its just been right wing politics the entire time :heston

remember QNXT under Hunter?
remember Retribution?

That's just some mild recent examples
Fucking hell…
 

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I think if you want young people to have babies you need to make life at home sustainable before you start bringing other people over to your house.
 
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I think if you want young people to have babies you need to make life at home sustainable before you start bringing other people over to your house.
I’ll toast to that.
 

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Elon is a huge proponent of saving the falling birth rate. He’s on the clock now. Let’s see what you do to make those youngsters feel safe enough to make babies.
 

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I don’t know why I’m catching strays when I’ve been for Kamala from the start, but for the record Roe was a goal for the religious right for four plus decades. It was always something they campaigned on.

While RBG herself, who was a proponent of abortion rights, said Roe was built on bad foundation. I didn’t personally think I’d see it fall in my lifetime, but it was always possible.

I’m not gonna say it’s impossible for a lot of these other things being predicted to happen, but the background to those are very different to Roe, which took these people almost 50 years to overturn, and was always built on very shaky precedent.

I don’t know how defeated Joe, Kamala and the Democrats of Congress are feeling right now, but I would be working my ass off to try to get some legislation enshrined in law about now.

I know California just enshrined gay marriage in the state constitution which is fabulous news.


I didn't agree but the sentiment of me saying "people told me not to worry about Roe V Wade" and you acting like no one said that has frustrated me in the past. Again, I don't actually think YOU told me to worry about Roe V Wade, but you've confronted me as if no one said it to me before. When my point is, I've been told not to worry about "x" multiple times and low and behold they happen. I'm going to stay worried about my friends regardless of how much you don't think I should
 

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well people need houses and not be renting. anecdotal - but why would we have kids if we cannot afford any home on two salaries? and with all the online infighting and grooming. like damn man. not really selling us
 

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Tbh an easy solution would actually be to start implementing Keynesian economic theory into the legislature, more government regulation in controlling prices and taxation of entities.

Also abolishing Citizens United would go a long long way.
 

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I mean I would personally start with outright outlawing lobbying and bribery like intended. make it so going into politics is not profitable. it should not be. remove incentives for abuse.
 

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There's plenty of policies I've thought about over the years but I've yet to form an official platform
 

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well people need houses and not be renting. anecdotal - but why would we have kids if we cannot afford any home on two salaries? and with all the online infighting and grooming. like damn man. not really selling us

I feel I get a bit irrationally sad when I see kids at my apartment complex, they're happy but man
 
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I didn't agree but the sentiment of me saying "people told me not to worry about Roe V Wade" and you acting like no one said that has frustrated me in the past. Again, I don't actually think YOU told me to worry about Roe V Wade, but you've confronted me as if no one said it to me before. When my point is, I've been told not to worry about "x" multiple times and lo and behold they happen. I'm going to stay worried about my friends regardless of how much you don't think I should
If I ever said that, that no one said that to you, I was probably only speaking about this board because I wouldn’t be able to speak about what you might experience in Texas or with your friends or with family. That’s the issue I think a lot of times with threads like these is, we can only speak for what’s going on here. I apologize if I ever gave you any other impression. Especially lately because I’ve been fairly low profile in politics.

I also can’t person recall ever telling you what you should or shouldn’t worry about off the top of my head. I just give my own personal feelings and I don’t think America’s gonna personally become Nazi Germany. There might be a couple of things that might happen that you’re worried about, but I don’t think the plethora is going to. But again, I’m not telling you you can’t worry about it, but I do think we have enough checks and balances that the vast majority of things that people think is going to happen I don’t think are going to happen, but that’s just me. I’m only speaking for me.