The 2024 United States Presidential Election Thread

[Comrade Khan]

hopefully your friends don't get deported. I am like...saying that earnestly. fucking depressing,

 

[Chris]

hopefully your friends don't get deported. I am like...saying that earnestly. fucking depressing,

I have more gay friends than foreign or Hispanic rn, more worried about them overall too

 

[Comrade Khan]

I have more gay friends than foreign or Hispanic rn, more worried about them overall too

doubly so if they have a vagina

 

[Comrade Khan]

as a Canadian, this is also going to take a shit on our barely recovering economy. people are already struggling pretty fucking bad right now. this is gonna push people over the edge which means we're logically going to be swinging right as well

 

[Samoa Looch]

Yea... same. I pretty much only have connections to North American people online and a lot are in the LGBTQ community, or heavily involved with people in that community. I might joke a lot, but that doesn't mean I'm not worried as fuck for all of them.

 

[Comrade Khan]

fwiw Trudeau was cooked regardless who won, I'm not putting that on America but America doubling down on protectionism and tarrifs is going to be bad. PP is gonna get fleeced by Don and that's going to be extremely bad for us unless we trade elsewhere. I guess the only positive is it might lead to a halt in immigration here too. yes i know that's a controversial take from a lefty

 

[Samoa Looch]

as a Canadian, this is also going to take a shit on our barely recovering economy. people are already struggling pretty fucking bad right now. this is gonna push people over the edge which means we're logically going to be swinging right as well

Hence why I'm not looking forward to our federal election next year either... Shit's gonna get worse and worse and most people can only vote and watch it happen.

 

[Comrade Khan]

fwiw Canada is awful too - Trudeau is in millionth scandal - this time - it's multiple MPs of multiple parties being investigated for being compromised by China. and regular people are just like wtv. The cons have leaned hard into identity politics and so have the liberals. The ndp alligns with Trudeau to stay alive in hopes of getting tiny concessions. it's going to end up in a massive conservative majority next election. very similar result but different story. corruption all time high in the provinces too. voter apathy i believe worse than the US as well

 

[Comrade Khan]

and just so I can explain my uneducated position on current immigration in Canada

corporations are abusing temporary worker programs and then those people apply for residency. this leads to worker abuse and less jobs for canadians. not sustainable.

bringing in over 1 million a year in a country of 30 million that is in the middle of a housing crisis is insane. I am not blaming housing issues on immigration., But pretending immigration is not exasperation and speed running the issue is also insane.

Further abuse, due to provincial cuts in education, universities and colleges had to rely more on foreign students. this ended up causing a baloon effect where international students outnumbered domestics. these students are also scammed into coming here promised student housing. there is none left. they are now in the public market for housing. they now have to work over their allotted hours to pay rent. this drives prices of housing and food up. unfucking sustainable and a scam to everyone involved.

there needs to be huge changes imo but i dont believe they need to be draconian either. Corporations however don't want to lose free labour and pay Canadians what they are worth.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Immigration should be strict, but more streamlined tbh. Citizenship and work visas should be easier to get, and while there should be more border security, there should be hundreds more legal points of entry.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Also the immigration legal system also needs a massive overhaul.

 

[Comrade Khan]

I would be lying if I said I knew much about yours but ours is both fairly easy but also massively backlogged. and our enforcement is almost non existant. much like America, we need a gigantic overhaul.

you know, I also thought of something today. I suppose it does not apply to like the more extreme people. Like people in Texas with Chris sound intense. idk. But how come like irl I've met so many right leaning people but we get along and usually dislike the same things. rarely talk about controversial stuff. but if we met online we might hate each other. I feel like while maybe there is a lot of jerks out there...one on one a lot of people are also good and kind. Maybe misled. scared. wtv.

It sucks that hate and toxicity seems to be the fashion of the day, at least during this decade. I know it's been a hard day for me but I do genuinely hope we one day find a way out of this mess of a planet

 

[BSE]

I’m disappointed Kamala lost. It’s shocking she lost so badly. I really don’t get it.

 

[Smart Marx]

we have some pseudo enlightened center right folks on this very board who acted like this and likely are acting like this now. sorry smark

I don’t know why I’m catching strays when I’ve been for Kamala from the start, but for the record Roe was a goal for the religious right for four plus decades. It was always something they campaigned on.

While RBG herself, who was a proponent of abortion rights, said Roe was built on bad foundation. I didn’t personally think I’d see it fall in my lifetime, but it was always possible.

I’m not gonna say it’s impossible for a lot of these other things being predicted to happen, but the background to those are very different to Roe, which took these people almost 50 years to overturn, and was always built on very shaky precedent.

I don’t know how defeated Joe, Kamala and the Democrats of Congress are feeling right now, but I would be working my ass off to try to get some legislation enshrined in law about now.

I know California just enshrined gay marriage in the state constitution which is fabulous news.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Well I can explain a little bit in that the legal system is backed up here. Basically if you're accused of being an illegal you get hauled in front of a judge with a public defender who has at minimum 200 other cases and minimal time to argue your case.

Then the judge will essentially unilaterally decide the verdict for you.