Roxxi deserves a damn push already

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Kaedon, now you're repeating arguments and flat out ignoring what I say.
Well if anyone knows how to do that....

I provide examples showing that every single Knockout is out there in either realistic and appropriate athletic attire or some kind of gimmick thing, like Kong's outfit or Roxxi's old voodoo outfit, and you simply ignore it and instead say that they dress like whores.
And if its tight and/or short and/or skimpy, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with their figure, but SOLELY with their gimmick.

I point out the increasing number of signs and the fact that the out-of-IZ PPVs have crowds that coincide with the cheers of the IZ, and you ignore it and instead say that people in the IZ aren't TNA fans.
You can "say" whatever you want, but it means nothing when its "well I heard it"


I saw that WWE put WCW out of business, and you say that WCW killed WWE in the ratings - true for a brief point in time, but again, ignoring the truth of what I said.

And youre ignoring the larger point that people will take on competition and lose, as WCW did for a long time.


I point out time and time again that the Knockouts draw the highest rated portion of any given iMPACT!, and you say that women don't draw.
Wait now its the highest on any given, when before it was "consistently in the top 3"


I say that the Divas do not draw, then I respond to your saying "NEVER?", and now you try to make it seem like I say they draw when both myself and the ratings for any typical Divas matchup says they don't.
Saying they do not draw means, THEY DONT, when clearly they do. Hell, they even draw more than the TNA KOs I bet.


I say that what the Knockouts do off screen is never ever mentioned in any capacity on air, proof of which being right there on screen, and you say "yes it is."
And you deny that if TNA hold a photoshoot where they get topless and or almost topless, it has nothing to do with the company.

I point out that the Knockouts draw the highest, and you say that the Knockouts draw a small portion of a small portion.

Really, because I thought you said.....



The Knockouts are not ALWAYS the highest rated segments, but they ARE always of the highest segments. Sometimes they're at the top, sometimes second place, seldomly third. Key point is, they are ALWAYS at the top of the heap. The Knockouts draw, sorry.

So which is it? Do they draw the highest or are they merely in the neighborhood?



You call a third of the total focus group too small a portion to draw information of the whole from, even though any statistician would say otherwise. Want proof of that? Look at how Nielsen ratings work! They gather information from a hell of a smaller portion of the population than one third.
I know how AC does it. But you dont know for sure that everyone is a good cross section, which is why ratings come back all fucked up sometimes.

I, several other people, and the HISTORY BOOKS
Please point me to said book....


say that Nikki innovated the Guillotine Drop, and you say that she didn't because D-Lo Brown can do a high angle spinning spinebuster. Do you realize how stupid you sound? That's like saying that Kurt Angle didn't innovate the Olympic Slam because Eddie Guerrero did the Three Amigos. THEY ARE DIFFERENT MOVES.
Actually its like saying John Cena didnt innovate the F-U when people have been using firemans carry takedowns since the beginning of time.


You constantly compare ROH to shows like Sex and the City, and now you backpedal when called on it.
And yet you cant show me where I did. Interesting....:y:


I make a valid point, and you choose to ignore it in favor of nitpicking the wording.
DONT USE WHAT I SAY!!! USE WHAT I WANT YOU TO THINK I SAID!!


Kaedon, i'm done with your ignoring what I say, ignoring facts, and going off on tangeants that have nothing to do with anything and then claiming i've been proven wrong when I grow sick of humoring you with them. This debate lost all point and purpose when you refused to accept that Nikki innovated a move despite everyone telling you otherwise. This argument, because i'm not going to lower the significance of debates by calling this one, is over.

sounds familiar....


Kaedon, go ahead, have the "last word" if it helps you so much. You've proven that you know absolutely nothing about the topic at hand and have no interest in learning, so if you either don't see or choose to ignore how childish and immature you're being, arguing with you is not worth my time or anyone else's. People, stop humoring him; just ignore him and he'll go away.
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That was out of respect for other people's wishes, until monkeystyle came in and told us that we were all being good boys and to keep going. Now, however, i'm just sick of dealing with you ignoring facts, sidestepping the points, arguing against random individual sentences rather than the whole paragraph that actually encompasses the arguments you constantly avoid - pretending there are no supporting arguments to that sentence because you didn't bother quoting them in with it even though i wrote them together, and constant outbursts of immaturity. And hey, thanks for pasting that last part. Saves me the trouble.
 

Beer Money Army

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alot of wrestlers deserve a push in tna... but tna won't listen, they give the x title to a wrestler that was involved in tna lowest ratings match on impact 08 season..
 

Kaedon

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Now, however, i'm just sick of dealing with you ignoring facts
If by "facts" you mean irrelevant bullshit like a million people who watch TNA like the KOs, therefore women draw in wrestling, then yes, im ignoring it because its complete crap.

sidestepping the points,
When did I do that?

arguing against random individual sentences rather than the whole paragraph that actually encompasses the arguments you constantly avoid
DONT USE MY WORDS AGAINST ME!!!

- pretending there are no supporting arguments to that sentence because you didn't bother quoting them in with it even though i wrote them together, and constant outbursts of immaturity. And hey, thanks for pasting that last part. Saves me the trouble.

Please tell me where I "underquoted" you. The fact is, YOU CANT, because I didnt. You dont like the fact that Im using logic, reason, and knowledge against you as opposed to ZOMG THE KOS GET A LOT OF HIGH RATINGS THEREFORE EVERYONE LOVES WOMENS WRESTLING, PERIOD, LALALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALALALA!
 

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Oh for fuck sake, somebody lock the topic before I bang some heads together.

I have already spoken on this and now I am just annoyed. I will fix this problem however. Undermining authority sounds about right.
 

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Would one of you tell the other to go fuck themselves so I can have a decent reason to move this to the street fight?
 

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go fuck yourself MS :shifty:
 

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^ ownage.

I think its safe to say that RLFB got the victory in this one. I'll be giving my opinion on this debate on the IWF Podcast tonight at 9PM ET!!!