Roxxi deserves a damn push already

[Kaedon]

Ooookay... all of those women have their strengths and weaknesses, and i'm not going to spit in their faces by trying to pick them apart in some kind of childish "my wrestler is better than your wrestler!" competition.

You are the one who is saying that she "deserves" a push over them. Therefore, you have to, to some extent, pick them apart. There is no way around it.

The key points are that Nikki Roxx is one of the best all-around athletes in women's wrestling.

Thats subjective. What makes her so?

She's got the strength to pull off power moves like inverted powerslams, spinebusters, and fallaway slams with ease

and no other woman can?

the athleticism to snap off hurricanranas, springboard arm drags, and tornado DDTs (watch her SHIMMER matches)

So can half a dozen other women, including a good amount of the WWE women ive heard you shit on over and over again.

and the ability and willingness to pull off some brutal hardcore matches

That doesnt make you deserving, that makes you ballsy, crazy, and IMO a little dumb, you have to be to want to do that. Why does that make her more deserving that anyone else? Does that mean New Jack deserved to be the ECW champion?

She innovated her own finisher, the Guillotine Drop

I dont think shes the only one to ever use that move

and her experience and accomplishments in at least a dozen indy promotions speak for themselves.

This I like. She does have a lot of indy experience, something a lot of wrestlers lack now a days.

Add to this the fact that the crowds go insane for her and scream her name whether or not she's even involved in the match, and you've got yourself one of the best of the best female wrestlers who deserves a push like nobody else in the Knockouts.

No, the crowd does NOT go nuts for her. The crowd goes NUTS for Angle, Sting, AJ, CC, and Joe (which isnt saying much in the Sheepact Zone). Everyone else in TNA, gets a lot of the same mixed chant response. I watched her beat the shit out of Angelina Love and guess what, half the crowd was sitting on their hands. There were like a dozen people who were like WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YEAH ITS ROXXI, the rest were like "yeah its TNA, lets cheer".

When TNA start leaving the IMPACT Zone regularly, THEN you can tell who really is over and who isnt.

 

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

You are the one who is saying that she "deserves" a push over them. Therefore, you have to, to some extent, pick them apart. There is no way around it.

Ok, fine:

As The Beautiful People, Angelina Love and Velvet Sky ARE getting a massive push - as heels. Roxxi is a face now.
Awesome Kong: See The Beautiful People.
Gail Kim: No longer in TNA, and even if she was, she's already been pushed to high hell and has grown stale. You just didn't hear people chanting GAIL KIM anymore. She's an amazing athlete, easily surpassing Nikki in the high flying department, but she lacks Nikki and ODB's power. She's small, so she always comes off as some kind of underdog, getting overpowered by everyone she goes in the ring with but managing to pull off a tilt-a-whirl headscissors armbar or something. Fantastic wrestler, totally deserving of a push, and she got one she was worthy of. Now it's time to freshen things up a bit. John Cena is like a god on RAW, but you don't see him holding the belt 24/7/365. The title siituation needs to change for the show to continue being watchable.
Salinas: No longer with the company, not nearly as talented, and not nearly as over. She's fun, but she's just not main-event quality.
ODB: More over than Roxxi, but let's be honest - she's not that good a wrestler. She pretty much has to be in some kind of gimmick match to really impress, and people keep whining about too many gimmick matches in TNA, so there you go. Pushes should go to people who are both over AND above everyone else in the ring. Roxxi can be just as hardcore, plus she's a much better actual wrestler. And since she WAS on par with ODB in overness before these past few months of crappy booking, we know the crowds want to cheer for her just as much as they do ODB. When you've got two stars that the crowds love equally, you give the push to the more physically talented one.

Thats subjective. What makes her so?

If you actually watched TNA, or any of her matches in SHIMMER and all the other indy promotions she's wrestled in, you'd know that my statement backs itself up. If I asked you "what makes Shelton Benjamin such a good athlete? That's subjective", you'd tell me to go watch him wrestle. Simple as that.

and no other woman can?

Of course they can, but they tend to therefore not be as talented in technical or high flying wrestling. Hence, "all-around athlete."

So can half a dozen other women, including a good amount of the WWE women ive heard you shit on over and over again.

See above, replace "technical or high flying" with "power". And if you're really going to sit there and tell me that Maria or Kelly Kelly are on par with Nikki, it's obvious you've never actually watched her TNA or SHIMMER matches. Mickie James is pretty good, yes, but again, see above. Melina is fan-freakin-tastic, which is why you'll never see me say anything bad about her. But even so, i've yet to see her go strictly with power moves for any length of time like it's nothing. Beth Phoenix and Victoria, awesome, but mostly power and not all-around.

That doesnt make you deserving, that makes you ballsy, crazy, and IMO a little dumb, you have to be to want to do that. Why does that make her more deserving that anyone else? Does that mean New Jack deserved to be the ECW champion?

The fact that she's willing to do that kind of thing shows her dedication to the company. She's not a lunatic like Mickie Knuckles, but she's willing to take some chair shots and the like to sell a serious beating, as well as put on the hardcore offense effectively. You call that dumb? I call that a dedicated asset to the company.

I dont think shes the only one to ever use that move

Jake Roberts isn't the only one to have ever used a DDT either. Nikki innovated the Guillotine Drop, do some research.

This I like. She does have a lot of indy experience, something a lot of wrestlers lack now a days.

Well there you go; hence her all-around athletic ability.

No, the crowd does NOT go nuts for her. The crowd goes NUTS for Angle, Sting, AJ, CC, and Joe (which isnt saying much in the Sheepact Zone). Everyone else in TNA, gets a lot of the same mixed chant response. I watched her beat the shit out of Angelina Love and guess what, half the crowd was sitting on their hands. There were like a dozen people who were like WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCK YEAH ITS ROXXI, the rest were like "yeah its TNA, lets cheer".

When TNA start leaving the IMPACT Zone regularly, THEN you can tell who really is over and who isnt.

Funny, I don't ever hear people chanting Salinas's name, or Traci's, or hell, even Taylor Wilde's. So you watched one match? I can name dozens of matches where the response for Jeff Hardy was just average. Doesn't mean there aren't dozens of others where the whole crowd was chanting his name, and same goes for Roxxi. Don't base your opinions on one show. And again, we all know you rarely watch iMPACT!, so don't come in here trying to tell us how over the wrestlers are. I don't go to the WWE section and talk about who's at the top of the ECW ladder.

 

[chessarmy]

^ just to but in on this little debate. I have to say that Roxxi fanboy is absolutely correct. Imo, Roxxi is one of the most deserving knockouts in TNA. She paid her dues in the indies AND she's dedicated a lot to TNA (including her own hair!!). Kaedon, I understand what you mean about the iMPACT! Zone crowd. But its not like you should discredit them completely, there are still some knowledgeable wrestling fans that go there.

Btw, when I saw Roxxi live at the iMPACT! tapings in the summer. She was pretty funny. In the Xplosion match when some of the smarks started to chant for the heel team (Jackie and Rhaka Kahn) just to be cool, Roxxi was like "no, come on guys. Cheer for my team" and everyone just laughed and started a Roxxi chant :laugh:

 

[Kaedon]

Fantastic wrestler, totally deserving of a push, and she got one she was worthy of. Now it's time to freshen things up a bit. John Cena is like a god on RAW, but you don't see him holding the belt 24/7/365. The title siituation needs to change for the show to continue being watchable.

"She is different therefore she deserves it".

Salinas: No longer with the company, not nearly as talented, and not nearly as over. She's fun, but she's just not main-event quality.

Yes, Roxxi is on the same level as Kurt Angle, Sting, and Samoa Joe.

ODB: More over than Roxxi, but let's be honest - she's not that good a wrestler. She pretty much has to be in some kind of gimmick match to really impress, and people keep whining about too many gimmick matches in TNA, so there you go. Pushes should go to people who are both over AND above everyone else in the ring. Roxxi can be just as hardcore, plus she's a much better actual wrestler. And since she WAS on par with ODB in overness before these past few months of crappy booking, we know the crowds want to cheer for her just as much as they do ODB. When you've got two stars that the crowds love equally, you give the push to the more physically talented one.

So being able to do more moves makes you a better wrestler? I had no idea....

If you actually watched TNA, or any of her matches in SHIMMER and all the other indy promotions she's wrestled in, you'd know that my statement backs itself up. If I asked you "what makes Shelton Benjamin such a good athlete? That's subjective", you'd tell me to go watch him wrestle. Simple as that.

Shelton Benjamin is a great athlete because he does clearly athletic things. Ive never seen Roxxi jump flat footed to the top rope.

See above, replace "technical or high flying" with "power". And if you're really going to sit there and tell me that Maria or Kelly Kelly are on par with Nikki, it's obvious you've never actually watched her TNA or SHIMMER matches. Mickie James is pretty good, yes, but again, see above. Melina is fan-freakin-tastic, which is why you'll never see me say anything bad about her. But even so, i've yet to see her go strictly with power moves for any length of time like it's nothing. Beth Phoenix and Victoria, awesome, but mostly power and not all-around.

Well according to you, more moves = better. Michelle McCool, Nattie, Beth, Mickie, Melina, and Victoria all can do as many moves as Roxxi.

The fact that she's willing to do that kind of thing shows her dedication to the company. She's not a lunatic like Mickie Knuckles, but she's willing to take some chair shots and the like to sell a serious beating, as well as put on the hardcore offense effectively. You call that dumb? I call that a dedicated asset to the company.

You know who else is a dedicated employee? Funaki. Lets have him beat The Undertaker and HHH.

Jake Roberts isn't the only one to have ever used a DDT either. Nikki innovated the Guillotine Drop, do some research.

Jake Roberts actually invented a move. Last I checked, Roxxi didnt invent the leg drop. She may have modified it, but hey, John Cena came up with a finisher, he is deserving then too right?

Well there you go; hence her all-around athletic ability.

Time on the indies has nothing to do with athleticism. See Mick Foley.

Funny, I don't ever hear people chanting Salinas's name, or Traci's, or hell, even Taylor Wilde's. So you watched one match? I can name dozens of matches where the response for Jeff Hardy was just average. Doesn't mean there aren't dozens of others where the whole crowd was chanting his name, and same goes for Roxxi. Don't base your opinions on one show. And again, we all know you rarely watch iMPACT!, so don't come in here trying to tell us how over the wrestlers are. I don't go to the WWE section and talk about who's at the top of the ECW ladder.

Ahh yes, STAY OUT OF MY SECTION, HOW DARE YOU HAVE AN OPINION THAT DOESNT AGREE WITH ME!!

 

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

"She is different therefore she deserves it".

Again, you miss the point. Roxxi deserves the push because she is a talented all-around athlete who is both willing to put on hardcore shows and is still second only to ODB in overness even after months of crappy booking. So yes, she's on par with Gail Kim in athleticism and overness, but is NOT Gail Kim, therefore she deserves it. Hence, the title picture is freshened up. By your logic there should only be one champion because it doesn't matter if someone else is different and yet just as talented. "Pfft, the title picture doesn't need to be kept fresh and exciting!" Were you perhaps booking John Cena last year?

Yes, Roxxi is on the same level as Kurt Angle, Sting, and Samoa Joe.

I never said that, but when you consider that she has main evented iMPACT!s and that such segments are typically the highest rated portions of TNA, surpassing the segments of those three...

Nikki is not a wrestling legend, no. She is, however, an extremely gifted all-around athlete, willing to go through with any kind of match to entertain the crowds, and she's at the top of the ladder in terms of overness. If all that doesn't define a quality wrestler in your eyes, I don't know what does.

So being able to do more moves makes you a better wrestler? I had no idea....

That's... exactly what makes you a better wrestler? In terms of athletic ability anyway. Having a more diverse moveset, encompassing both high flying and power moves, is the very definition of a gifted, all-around athlete. If you mean "makes you a better ENTERTAINER", then factor in her prowess in hardcore matches and her excellent mic skills. She's not The Rock, but she's head and shoulders above the likes of Batista. She's a fantastic wrestler and entertainer, which you'd know if you watched TNA and/or SHIMMER.

Shelton Benjamin is a great athlete because he does clearly athletic things. Ive never seen Roxxi jump flat footed to the top rope.

Probably because you don't actually watch TNA or SHIMMER. Has she ever done that exact thing, jump flat footed to the top rope? I've not seen all her matches, but not to my knowledge. Also, Michael Jordan can't come close to getting the world record in the hundred meter sprint, but that doesn't mean he isn't a gifted athlete either. There are different kinds of athletes. Nikki encompasses the power game and the high flying game, making her a gifted athlete in all aspects of professional wrestling. You'd know this if you actually watched her in action.

Well according to you, more moves = better. Michelle McCool, Nattie, Beth, Mickie, Melina, and Victoria all can do as many moves as Roxxi.

I don't know how this became Nikki Vs. All the Divas, but ok. Those women are great athletes, yes, but all of them (save for perhaps Melina) are too far on one end of the spectrum - either the high flying game or the power game. None of them can snap off hurricanranas and springboard moves one second, then get up, bring up their opponents and power them down in any number of ways like it's nothing. Nikki can do that, because she's a fantastic all-around athlete. Again, you'd know this if you actually watched.

You know who else is a dedicated employee? Funaki. Lets have him beat The Undertaker and HHH.

Yes, because Funaki is an all-around athlete who lights up crowds. Dedication was not my only supporting argument, so don't make it out like that's all Nikki has going for her.

Jake Roberts actually invented a move. Last I checked, Roxxi didnt invent the leg drop. She may have modified it, but hey, John Cena came up with a finisher, he is deserving then too right?

If you want to get technical, Jake Roberts didn't actually invent a move - he screwed up a knee lift and his opponent was smart/kind enough to sell the resulting mess.

And... a leg drop? I mean... seriously Kaedon, a LEG DROP? THAT'S what you think Nikki innovated? Just... sweet christ, you really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you? A Guillotine Drop is not a leg drop!

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Time on the indies has nothing to do with athleticism. See Mick Foley.

So you're denying that Nikki is a gifted all-around athlete?

Ahh yes, STAY OUT OF MY SECTION, HOW DARE YOU HAVE AN OPINION THAT DOESNT AGREE WITH ME!!

1. This is not my section and I never said anything to imply that it is, here or anywhere.
2. You express opinions that aren't worth anything because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and you just proved it yourself. I guess you thought the Guillotine Drop was a leg drop because of the Guillotine Leg Drop, but that just proves that you've done NO research, you HAVEN'T seen more than one match involving Nikki (if even that), you have NO IDEA what you're talking about, and you're just sitting there trying to pick a fight, or something. A Guillotine Drop is named as such because it involves applying a standing guillotine choke. You'd know this if you watched, but you don't, and you've proven that. You've got no foundation for any of your arguments involving Nicole Raczynski and you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
3. Grow up.

 

[Chuck Taylor's Grenade]

I don't think Roxxxi will ever get a push until either member of the Beautiful People win the title no matter how over or talented she is.

 

[Soulpower]

All this talk about Knockouts and SHIMMER....

http://www.impactwrestling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26230

CHEAP PLUG!! *RUNS AWAY*

 

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

I don't think Roxxxi will ever get a push until either member of the Beautiful People win the title no matter how over or talented she is.

Now that is true. Roxxi is far too over to turn heel, so either Taylor needs to turn heel or one of TBP, preferably Angelina, needs to win the title.

 

[Kaedon]

Again, you miss the point. Roxxi deserves the push because she is a talented all-around athlete who is both willing to put on hardcore shows and is still second only to ODB in overness even after months of crappy booking. So yes, she's on par with Gail Kim in athleticism and overness, but is NOT Gail Kim, therefore she deserves it. Hence, the title picture is freshened up. By your logic there should only be one champion because it doesn't matter if someone else is different and yet just as talented. "Pfft, the title picture doesn't need to be kept fresh and exciting!" Were you perhaps booking John Cena last year?

No, by my logic, you dont just throw someone in there to "spice things up", thats Blue.

I never said that, but when you consider that she has main evented iMPACT!s and that such segments are typically the highest rated portions of TNA, surpassing the segments of those three...

You said Selinas wasnt ME quality, thus implying Roxxi is when she is clearly not. No woman is.

That's... exactly what makes you a better wrestler? In terms of athletic ability anyway. Having a more diverse moveset, encompassing both high flying and power moves, is the very definition of a gifted, all-around athlete. If you mean "makes you a better ENTERTAINER", then factor in her prowess in hardcore matches and her excellent mic skills. She's not The Rock, but she's head and shoulders above the likes of Batista. She's a fantastic wrestler and entertainer, which you'd know if you watched TNA and/or SHIMMER.

If you think just knowing moves makes you a good wrestler, you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Probably because you don't actually watch TNA or SHIMMER. Has she ever done that exact thing, jump flat footed to the top rope? I've not seen all her matches, but not to my knowledge.

ZOMG HOW CAN YOU COMMENT IF YOU HAVENT SEEN EVERY ONE OF HER MATCHES!!!?

Also, Michael Jordan can't come close to getting the world record in the hundred meter sprint, but that doesn't mean he isn't a gifted athlete either. There are different kinds of athletes. Nikki encompasses the power game and the high flying game, making her a gifted athlete in all aspects of professional wrestling. You'd know this if you actually watched her in action.

She can be a power wrestler when wresting women her size. I guess that makes Jamie Noble a power wrestler since ive seen him manhandle guys his size too. Sorry, doing power moves alone doesnt make you a power wrestler.

I don't know how this became Nikki Vs. All the Divas, but ok. Those women are great athletes, yes, but all of them (save for perhaps Melina) are too far on one end of the spectrum - either the high flying game or the power game. None of them can snap off hurricanranas and springboard moves one second, then get up, bring up their opponents and power them down in any number of ways like it's nothing. Nikki can do that, because she's a fantastic all-around athlete. Again, you'd know this if you actually watched.

Oh now being able to do different moves not only makes you a great wrestler, it makes you a great athlete. So I guess no wrestler who cant do every move of every style is shit for an athlete.

Yes, because Funaki is an all-around athlete who lights up crowds. Dedication was not my only supporting argument, so don't make it out like that's all Nikki has going for her.

guys like Scotty 2 Hotty and Funaki get huge face pops, especially at house shows, way louder than anything Roxxi gets in the IMPACT zone.

If you want to get technical, Jake Roberts didn't actually invent a move - he screwed up a knee lift and his opponent was smart/kind enough to sell the resulting mess.

So now accidents dont count as inventions? It has to be purposeful? Hey Issac Newton, you didnt discover gravity, IT DISCOVERED YOU!!

And... a leg drop? I mean... seriously Kaedon, a LEG DROP? THAT'S what you think Nikki innovated? Just... sweet christ, you really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, do you? A Guillotine Drop is not a leg drop!

Oh that move, I always called that the VooDoo Slam, which is a modified powerbomb, which looks a lot like the Cade move, which is a direct rip off of the low down with a sit down. Thats not innovation.

So you're denying that Nikki is a gifted all-around athlete?

Im saying being able to do different moves doesnt make you a good athlete or a good wrestler. Theres more to both, which youd know if you knew fuck all about wrestling and the industry.

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1. This is not my section and I never said anything to imply that it is, here or anywhere.
2. You express opinions that aren't worth anything because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and you just proved it yourself. I guess you thought the Guillotine Drop was a leg drop because of the Guillotine Leg Drop, but that just proves that you've done NO research, you HAVEN'T seen more than one match involving Nikki (if even that), you have NO IDEA what you're talking about, and you're just sitting there trying to pick a fight, or something. A Guillotine Drop is named as such because it involves applying a standing guillotine choke. You'd know this if you watched, but you don't, and you've proven that. You've got no foundation for any of your arguments involving Nicole Raczynski and you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
3. Grow up.

So please tell me VooDoo Queen lover, how many matches exactly must I watch to have a well enough informed opinion so as to please you? Oh wait, I dont give a flying fuck.

 

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

Kaedon, you've watched only one of her matches if that, and you come in here trying to act like you know anything about her. You think she innovated a leg drop, and now when you're shown the actual move, you don't even name it correctly - it's the Voodoo Drop, not Voodoo Slam. The Slam is an inverted front powerslam. Then you describe the move as something it's not even when you see a video clip of it and are told by several people, both here and in the shoutbox earlier today, that she indeed innovated it, you deny that Nikki is a gifted athlete without ever having seen her compete for any length of time that'd educate you on what she can do, you base your argument on the fact that women can't main event simply because they have vaginas, you put words in my mouth, and you conclude by saying you don't give a "flying fuck" about what I have to say. I'm not wasting any more time on this, and frankly, i'm appalled that you're called a good debator or are allowed to be a moderator.

 

[Soulpower]

I'm just going to say it once more... TNA BLEW IT WITH ROXXI!!!

After she lost her hair, she was more over than ODB, Kong, Kim, The Beautiful People and pretty much any other Knockout in TNA (And it wasn't only in Florida, it was the same in PPV's outside of the Impact Zone). So what did TNA do? They give her a short feud with the BP, then she's put in the back burner in favor of people like Velvet Sky (Remember her winning a Battle Royal when the fans were clearly rooting for Roxxi?) and Taylor Wilde.

TNA had the perfect opportunity to push Roxxi, they blew it, ODB is now the most over KO on the roster, and she's the getting the push. Once again, TNA failed to capitalize on the popularity of one of their wrestlers. Sure, she'll probably get a push in the long-run, but when she DOES win the title, it just won't be as good it should have been.

In short... Lol, TNA.

 

[Kaedon]

Kaedon, you've watched only one of her matches if that, and you come in here trying to act like you know anything about her. You think she innovated a leg drop, and now when you're shown the actual move, you don't even name it correctly - it's the Voodoo Drop, not Voodoo Slam. The Slam is an inverted front powerslam. Then you describe the move as something it's not even when you see a video clip of it and are told by several people, both here and in the shoutbox earlier today, that she indeed innovated it,

So youre denying now that it looks like the Low-Down and the move Cade uses?

you deny that Nikki is a gifted athlete without ever having seen her compete for any length of time that'd educate you on what she can do,

Im not saying she IS or ISNT. What I am saying is, your definition of what makes a great athlete is very thin.

you base your argument on the fact that women can't main event simply because they have vaginas

Did I ever say that or even imply that? I said Roxxi or no woman can be a ME player, and thats true. But when did I say it had to do with them having a vagina? It has to do with the fact that womans wrestling doesnt draw like mens does.

you put words in my mouth

This is what people say when you use their own words against them.

and you conclude by saying you don't give a "flying fuck" about what I have to say. I'm not wasting any more time on this,

This too

and frankly, i'm appalled that you're called a good debator or are allowed to be a moderator.

Whats that, you cant logically come back with anything? Thought so.

 

[Nancy Di Loreto]

Women have main-evented. Anyone remember Trish-Lita?

 

[WCW Rules]

Did I ever say that or even imply that? I said Roxxi or no woman can be a ME player, and thats true. But when did I say it had to do with them having a vagina? It has to do with the fact that womans wrestling doesnt draw like mens does.

In TNA, they can, and they have surpassed the men in ratings for the promotion time and time again. The KOs have Main Evented iMPACT! sometimes as well, pulling in more numbers than many of the ME players in the promotion.

 

[Tsaalyo Phoenix]

Kaedon, go ahead, have the "last word" if it helps you so much. You've proven that you know absolutely nothing about the topic at hand and have no interest in learning, so if you either don't see or choose to ignore how childish and immature you're being, arguing with you is not worth my time or anyone else's. People, stop humoring him; just ignore him and he'll go away.

I'm just going to say it once more... TNA BLEW IT WITH ROXXI!!!

After she lost her hair, she was more over than ODB, Kong, Kim, The Beautiful People and pretty much any other Knockout in TNA (And it wasn't only in Florida, it was the same in PPV's outside of the Impact Zone). So what did TNA do? They give her a short feud with the BP, then she's put in the back burner in favor of people like Velvet Sky (Remember her winning a Battle Royal when the fans were clearly rooting for Roxxi?) and Taylor Wilde.

TNA had the perfect opportunity to push Roxxi, they blew it, ODB is now the most over KO on the roster, and she's the getting the push. Once again, TNA failed to capitalize on the popularity of one of their wrestlers. Sure, she'll probably get a push in the long-run, but when she DOES win the title, it just won't be as good it should have been.

In short... Lol, TNA.

Unfortunately, this is true. Hell, she was probably the most over one even before the shaving, hence the crowd going absolutely ballistic when she lost the match.

As for ODB getting the push, i'm not sure. She went toe to toe with Kong and flat out lost, and now Roxxi is in the Rough Cut segments. This could be just another short and fairly meaningless feud, but who knows, maybe they're finally capitalizing on it. She's not as over anymore, but all it takes is one or two good promos.