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[Grievous 3D]

I has Question...

How many Curb Stomps did the Fiend take exactly?

 

[Jacob Fox]

I has Question...

How many Curb Stomps did the Fiend take exactly?

Correction 11. I went back and counted a second time and I miscounted a few knee strikes as stomps.

 

[Grievous 3D]

11

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"How can we top the stupidity of the 5 F-5's Roman kicked out of at Wrestlemania 34?"

"I've got it!"

 

[Jacob Fox]

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"How can we top the stupidity of the 5 F-5's Roman kicked out of at Wrestlemania 34?"

"I've got it!"

As I mentioned before, even the Undertaker goes down at some point.

 

[Grievous 3D]

As I mentioned before, even the Undertaker goes down at some point.

Didn't Seth pin Le$nar clean with 2 or 3 stomps?

I don't know because I haven't watched any of
this horseshit since the 2018 Survivor Series
kick off how.

 

[Jacob Fox]

Didn't Seth pin Le$nar clean with 2 or 3 stomps?

I don't know because I haven't watched any of
this horseshit since the 2018 Survivor Series
kick off how.

Yup. At Summerslam.

I can understand them wanting to make the Fiend strong, but at some point it's just ridiculous.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Yup. At Summerslam.

I thought I read that somewhere...

I can understand them wanting to make the Fiend strong, but at some point it's just ridiculous.

I stand by statement...

This match should never have happened.

It was too early for the Fiend character & too early in Seth's second reign
for him to drop the belt...especially after defeating Le$nar & Strowman.

It should have been Fiend/Strowman in the main event Hell in a Cell
while Seth wrestled in a triple threat vs. Styles & Alexander...or hell...
write Ricochet into the match if Alexander isn't worthy.

 

[Just Kevin]

You guys are still talking about this? lol

Let's move on to see how they can screw up RAW tonight.. and I'll say it again.. I hope the crowd takes the show hostage.

 

[Jacob Fox]

You guys are still talking about this? lol

Let's move on to see how they can screw up RAW tonight.. and I'll say it again.. I hope the crowd takes the show hostage.

Well I just watched it so I couldn't have talked about it beforehand.

 

[Just Kevin]

Well I just watched it so I couldn't have talked about it beforehand.

I feel for you for having to watch it.

 

[Jacob Fox]

I thought I read that somewhere...


I stand by statement...

This match should never have happened.

It was too early for the Fiend character & too early in Seth's second reign
for him to drop the belt...especially after defeating Le$nar & Strowman.

It should have been Fiend/Strowman in the main event Hell in a Cell
while Seth wrestled in a triple threat vs. Styles & Alexander...or hell...
write Ricochet into the match if Alexander isn't worthy.

The match never made sense. The Fiend hadn't done anything to earn a Universal title match. The Cell is used to end a feud, not to start one.

What they should have done, IMO, is built up the Fiend vs Finn Balor. Balor and Wyatt had a long running feud in the past that ended when the Demon stood up after a Sister Abigail and defeated Wyatt. Then the Fiend returns and destroys normal Balor at Summerslam. They could have built up to a final confrontation of the Fiend vs the Demon in the Cell. Honestly, I think that made perfect sense and the concept sells itself.

 

[Jacob Fox]

I feel for you for having to watch it.

Don't feel bad. I like having something to bitch about.

 

[Grievous 3D]

You guys are still talking about this? lol

Yeah...because I'm still laughing about it...

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Let's move on to see how they can screw up RAW tonight.. and I'll say it again.. I hope the crowd takes the show hostage.

Or...we could not & watch AEW Dynamite
on Wednesday instead?

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The match never made sense. The Fiend hadn't done anything to earn a Universal title match.

Its funny you mention that...because when I stated
that in another thread I was told I don't "Understand
how wrestling works"

Its just amazing to think how many "Big Matches"
Bray Wyatt has lost/failed to win in his career.

Same for Sasha Banks...

Its like Vince just keeps them around because he
doesn't want them working elsewhere.

Sasha should just go home & sit out the rest of
her contract...although I read she recently signed
an extension.

I wonder if she signed that before or after she
was told she wasn't going over at Hell in a Cell.

What they should have done, IMO, is built up the Fiend vs Finn Balor. Balor and Wyatt had a long running feud in the past that ended when the Demon stood up after a Sister Abigail and defeated Wyatt. Then the Fiend returns and destroys normal Balor at Summerslam. They could have built up to a final confrontation of the Fiend vs the Demon in the Cell. Honestly, I think that made perfect sense and the concept sells itself.

Sounds like a great idea...

But they needed Balor in NXT to try & fuck with
AEW...and a fat lot of good that did them.

 

[Jeffry Mason]

Well he doesn't really make any points at all when you get down to it. First off, I know why the referee stopped the match. I am sure everyone knew why it was stopped in story line. That's not what people are irritated about. They are irritated because that IS the story line. They could have picked another story line and that negates his entire viewpoint.

Second, it's nonsense to claim that the Fiend didn't want the championship. If he didn't want the championship, he wanted carnage, then why did he pick Seth Rollins? There are a LOT of other wrestlers he could have tortured. But he chose Rollins because Rollins WAS the champion. So that point is complete nonsense.

And in regards to Bray Wyatt not getting the belt, people are upset about this because Wyatt was hot when he first came on the main roster. And the WWE fucked it up. So they have another chance here and most people wanted to see him with the belt. No one thinks the Fiend was buried in this match. But they see it as things to come that WWE will screw up the Bray Wyatt character again because that's the sort of path they did once and look like they may again.

Whether the Fiend wanted the belt or not is irrelevant. The fans wanted it on him and that's why they are pissed. It is their wants, not his that matter to them.

So yeah, I don't see that anything this guy said is worth anything.

Why are people irritated that that's the story? Because it's not how they would have booked it? The story is most likely not even over, so how can it be judged so quickly? Once upon a time people thought Matt Hardy slowly going crazy was pretty dumb as well, but that's one of the most loved stories out there now. It's gotta fully play out in order for it to properly be judged as a storyline.

He chose Rollins because he was the champion, yes. But is it entirely clear that his motivation is the championship itself? Or just to prove a point to the person with the championship? Could it be as stated in the video, that he thinks Seth is greedy or too self absorbed or over-confident, which is due to him having the title? His motivations regarding the actual championship were never made clear, but what was made clear was that he wanted to hurt Seth. Remember, we've seen the "hurt" aspect come into play thus far, but this is a deep character... the "heal" aspect shouldn't be ignored. Maybe the only way to heal Seth Rollins is to first hurt him. I'm getting a lot of Cena/Kane Embrace the Hate feud vibes from where this story has gone and is heading.

You can kick a man's ass and cause all the physical pain you want. But Bray's game is, and has always been, mental anguish as well. By staying down and taking quite literally everything Seth had, without fighting back during the second half of the match, and still being seemingly unphased by it, it sends quite the message, more than a simple beatdown would. Allowing Seth to think at the end that he finally had conquered this monster, only for the Fiend to come back once again, just as strong as he was before... what could possibly be going through Seth's mind after such a thing? Cuz it sure as fuck wasn't "well at least I'm still champ".

Again, I have no problem with people being upset. Everyone's perfectly entitled to how they feel about certain things. But I'm still not fully understanding the reason behind it, other than they just wanted the Fiend to be champ, and since that didn't happen, it was automatically shit. I suppose I can see people losing faith in the future booking of this character, but at the same time, I personally find it to be giving up too soon. This story has just begun. Say Fiend DID win the title. What logically comes next? He'd have presumably beaten Rollins definitively enough that he wouldn't be in any condition to get a rematch any time soon. He'd hold the title for a brief while and then no matter how good or bad he was booked during his reign, people would shit all over it when he loses the title anyway.

I think as far as the fans wants goes, it's important to take into consideration, but not every single thing needs to just cater to the majority of the fans. Both the writers and the wrestlers, and really just anyone involved... they're all the artists, and pro wrestling is art. Obviously art is subjective, but is it really art if the artist(s) don't get to put themselves, their feelings, their stories, etc into the medium? I truly don't think that WWE is doing this to spite their fans, or go against their wishes, or whatever. I believe they are giving them, giving us, exactly what we want. It's just not in the way we wanted or expected. But it's coming regardless. I'm more than willing to give this flower the time to bloom instead of just saying it's ugly because it's only a seed

 

[Grievous 3D]

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