Owen Hart doesn't deserve to go in the Hall of Fame.

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Maybe that is the difference with people who are good as opposed to great. I think a love for the business shines through when the guys are doing it because they truly love it and are living their dream.

But then again, The Rock was great but I don't believe he loved the wrestling business. Or maybe he did at that point in time, but it seems he loves what he is doing now. I wonder if he returned, he would have the same drive as he did before he left.
 

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I heard Bret say that around the time of the feud between the two of them he was seriously thinking about quitting the buisness. Which in his case would have been a better choice. I have also heard that him becoming a wrestler wasn't something he had ever wanted to do and he felt like it was forced on him more then anything due to his name.

What you heard is correct. I watched all of the DVD extra that I posted, it is from Bret's Wrestling With Shadows DVD and it takes a real good look at Owen's life and wrestling career where it goes into detail about what you said.
 

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Yeah Mike, I'm checking it out right now. I have watched Bret's other DVD as well which covers the general info on the accident but it but doesn't go into as much detail as Wrestling With Shadows. But no matter how sad his death is imo that alone isn't enough to be put in the HoF.
 
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Pete Rose being in the WWE Hall of Fame seems to be done because the MLB barred Pete Rose from ever being in their baseball Hall of Fame.

Owen Hart being in the hall of fame: No he shouldn't be. Honestly his heart was never in pro wrestling. He did it only for the money and to support his family. Eddie Guerrero's life was Pro wrestling. He had a decorated career and many many classic wrestling matches.
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Watch all the videos in entirety and you will know the real Owen Hart.

What are you talking about? Owen doesn't belong because his heart wasn't in the business? So what? He might not have wanted to be a wrestler, but his hear was indeed in it. Why would he have been such an awwesome worker? Why would he have put so much efforet into this character if his heart wasn't in it? Why would he have stayed behind, left all alone in the E after the exodus of his family if his heart wasn't in it? Why would he have jumped from the top of the rafters if his heart wasn't in it? No one is that awesome if they don't care. Sure, he might not have wanted to be a wrestler, but night in and night out he gave it his all and if that doesn't show heart, I'm afraid you can't distinguish the difference between heart and desire. It's just another testament to how much a fucking pro Owen was.

And by that severely flawed logic so many other people don't belong in the business. Hulk fuckin Hogan above all else. That man was never in it for the love of the business, just the love of himself and the love of money. He's still working not because he loves the business, because he needs money. If he loved the business he'd taken the money the E was offering him, which is still more than what TNA is giving him but he felt that he should still be headlining. And trust me, if his tv shows weren't flops, he wouldn't be working. So a megalomaniac deserves to be in over a guy, who's desire might not have been there but his heart always was in his efforts and giving the fans everything he had? Very few, very few people ever desire to be wrestlers. Run through that list of 'Famers, so many of them were failed football players and other things, wrestling was just a fall back plan, so you'd discount them for taking wrestling as a second option?

It's just asinine to argue that someone doing something they don't really want to do but excel in it anyways doesn't belong in a Hall because it's not what they really wanted to do. And me thinks if his heart really wasn't into it that badly he wouldn't have done it.
 

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The WWE HOF is a joke and doesn't matter, so yes Owen Hart doesn't belong. He should be in the PWHF in New York though.
 

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I think Owen Hart should be in the Hall Of Fame one day. There are other wrestlers that deserve to go in before him.
 

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Owen all most deserves to get in as much as Benoit. Owen was just as good in the ring and he rivals Benoit's more accomplishments with more charisma then Benoit. As for deserving it more than Eddie? No because Eddie got a chance to have a longer career then Owen.
 

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Owen Hart only had one thing over Chris Benoit. He was a really good talker.
 

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What are you talking about? Owen doesn't belong because his heart wasn't in the business? So what? He might not have wanted to be a wrestler, but his hear was indeed in it. Why would he have been such an awwesome worker? Why would he have put so much efforet into this character if his heart wasn't in it? Why would he have stayed behind, left all alone in the E after the exodus of his family if his heart wasn't in it? Why would he have jumped from the top of the rafters if his heart wasn't in it? No one is that awesome if they don't care. Sure, he might not have wanted to be a wrestler, but night in and night out he gave it his all and if that doesn't show heart, I'm afraid you can't distinguish the difference between heart and desire. It's just another testament to how much a fucking pro Owen was.

And by that severely flawed logic so many other people don't belong in the business. Hulk fuckin Hogan above all else. That man was never in it for the love of the business, just the love of himself and the love of money. He's still working not because he loves the business, because he needs money. If he loved the business he'd taken the money the E was offering him, which is still more than what TNA is giving him but he felt that he should still be headlining. And trust me, if his tv shows weren't flops, he wouldn't be working. So a megalomaniac deserves to be in over a guy, who's desire might not have been there but his heart always was in his efforts and giving the fans everything he had? Very few, very few people ever desire to be wrestlers. Run through that list of 'Famers, so many of them were failed football players and other things, wrestling was just a fall back plan, so you'd discount them for taking wrestling as a second option?

It's just asinine to argue that someone doing something they don't really want to do but excel in it anyways doesn't belong in a Hall because it's not what they really wanted to do. And me thinks if his heart really wasn't into it that badly he wouldn't have done it.


My point being is after watching the documentary on Owen. His family even admitted that Owen denounced pro wrestling, and the direction of sports entertainment. He was naturally a good wrestler. He stayed behind in the E because what else could he do? In the documentary it says Owen was only in the company at the time and having fun because Bret was there and he was able to support his family. When Bret left Owen tried to leave but Vince wouldn't let him. It also says that the days leading up to the stunt he didn't feel comfortable doing it and believed if he didn't do the stunt he would be fired. He declined so many storyline ideas at the time that he felt if he declined the stunt idea he would be out of a job and what would he be able to do at his age? After being a pro wrestler not many people succeed in doing much after their career. Don't get me wrong Owen had some natural talent when it comes to being a pro wrestler, but after watching the video I see Owen only was doing it to support his family. Growing up he despised wrestling and only did it to please his father and because he was so good at it.

Run through that list of 'Famers, so many of them were failed football players and other things, wrestling was just a fall back plan, so you'd discount them for taking wrestling as a second option?
Excellent point. After looking at the list of who all is in the hall of fame I change my opinion slightly. If people like Ko Ko B Ware are in the fame Owen deserves it, even though he didn't think highly of the business.
 

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Owen Hart was was not worthy of tying Chris Benoit's boots. Owen was good, but Chris Benoit is in the top five wrestlers of all time, imo. Owen would maybe scratch the top 50.
 

straight_edge76

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Owen was good, but Chris Benoit is in the top five wrestlers of all time.

'Tis true but being that Benoit's death really painted the WWE in a darker light then Owen's I highly doubt he will get in despite being one of the most deserving.
 

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Owen Hart was was not worthy of tying Chris Benoit's boots. Owen was good, but Chris Benoit is in the top five wrestlers of all time, imo. Owen would maybe scratch the top 50.

So Benoit showed a lot of intensity, Owen had charisma in the ring and he can get all most as technical as Benoit. Owen beats Benoit in athleticism.
 
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Owen Hart was was not worthy of tying Chris Benoit's boots. Owen was good, but Chris Benoit is in the top five wrestlers of all time, imo. Owen would maybe scratch the top 50.

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Benoit would have been top 5 if he had Owen's heat.
 

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If Koko B Ware is in the WWE Hall of Fame then Owen should be in to! Problem is that I dont think wwe wants to relive his death again!
 

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So Benoit showed a lot of intensity, Owen had charisma in the ring and he can get all most as technical as Benoit. Owen beats Benoit in athleticism.

A lot of intensity is an understatement. He raped viewers just by them watching. Owen was good (kind of) at putting on good performances in big-time matches. But during pretty much all of Benoit's WWF/E run (I didn't watch enough of WCW to comment), he put on good match after good match after good match any time he was in a ring, whether it was against Jericho, Austin, or the Rock or Val Venis, Kane, or Hardcore Holly. The man got a decent match out of Billy Gunn. Several decent matches. IN 2000. BILLY GUNN IN 2000 WAS A PIECE OF SHIT. And Holly has been since 1963. Point is, the guy was ALWAYS putting on good matches, not just when the spotlight was focused on him.