Official Football Discussion Thread 2012/13

[The Cork]

And I don't get how you're coming up with a ridiculous conclusion, ONE GAME into the season. At least Dale has the respect and decency to not be a cock, and celebrate RVP not scoring, and United losing, even though he doesn't support us. United always start slow, so please come back to me in January with the same statement so I can laugh at you. Arsenal DREW with fucking Sunderland, a team that yoyo's around the the leagues more than Kelly Kelly yoyo's around the WWE locker room. I'm gonna laugh when Stoke beat you.

You are working on hypothetical situations.

Man Utd actually did lose to Everton, and van Persie flopped.

Infact I bet he was laughing watching his replacement spoon wide from 6 yards out.

He was benched and his team lost, so he would be foolish to laugh.

 

[Dale]

He was benched because he's nowhere near match fit. You're attempt at trolling or whatever you want to call it to cover up being butthurt that Van Persie being gone is pretty sad now. Just face the facts, he's gone to a bigger, better and more successful club that will actually challenge for and win trophies, while Arsenal continue to get raped of their talent year in and year out.

 

[Keith]

Some points to be made here before this thread gets silly.

1. Cork does this to wind people up he knows that RVP can't be called a flop after one game and like wise that Utd are unlikely to finish below Arsenal.

2. To get some perspective on Arsenal a certain gutter press newspaper at the weekend reported that they are in crisis after drawing 0-0 in their first game. They didn't actually lose the game and it was only the first game yet they are in crisis? By that account because Utd lost their first match then they must be in crisis too right? Now for a bit of history last season Arsenal had a terrible start and all sorts of predictions were made about their future and that they were unlikely to make the top four well in the second half the season they put a awesome run of form together and finished third so just behind the two Manchester clubs, pretty respectable by all accounts. And they have finished in the top four for the last 15 years which only Utd can better. Wenger is a top manager and Arsenal a great club with a great history, have they been as sucessful as Utd under Sir Alex? No but only Liverpool of the 80s can claim that. They will come good again I have little doubt.

3. Also give credit to Sunderland and Everton. Sunderland have improved no end under O'Neill and will take a few more points off big teams before the season is out and Everton are always hard to beat and a decent footballing side under Moyles.

 

[The Cork]

2. To get some perspective on Arsenal a certain gutter press newspaper at the weekend reported that they are in crisis after drawing 0-0 in their first game. They didn't actually lose the game and it was only the first game yet they are in crisis? By that account because Utd lost their first match then they must be in crisis too right? Now for a bit of history last season Arsenal had a terrible start and all sorts of predictions were made about their future and that they were unlikely to make the top four well in the second half the season they put a awesome run of form together and finished third so just behind the two Manchester clubs, pretty respectable by all accounts. And they have finished in the top four for the last 15 years which only Utd can better. Wenger is a top manager and Arsenal a great club with a great history, have they been as sucessful as Utd under Sir Alex? No but only Liverpool of the 80s can claim that. They will come good again I have little doubt.

Exactly, I hear this 'demise of Arsenal' talk every season (and your post was bang on but of course it's trolling if I post something.)

After Overmars/Petit left, after Adams retired, after Vieira left, Henry, Fabregas, etc etc.

Man Utd are heavily crippled with debt and just had a failure of a stock exchange flotation, have aging players like Ferdinand/Vidic/Evra/Scholes still starting regularly for them and just lost to a mid table side.

Now who is the real club in crisis here.

 

[Keith]

Well I don't agree with you about them being in crisis but I too was going to make the point about their debts and I have a lot of time for the way Arsenal run as a club and Wenger's a big part of that. People also forget that they had to bank roll a new stadiem in a last few years which is a factor in their lack of spending.

 

[AZUCAR!]

Can't argue about last nights result. The better team won. Fellaini was a right handful all night and caused us plenty of trouble. I also thought David De Gea had a really good game. Had he not of made some of the saves he did, we could've easily lost 3/4-0.

 

[Andrew]

Can't argue about last nights result. The better team won. Fellaini was a right handful all night and caused us plenty of trouble. I also thought David De Gea had a really good game. Had he not of made some of the saves he did, we could've easily lost 3/4-0.

Agreed. My dad said Fellaini is going to have a breakout season and really be the main impact towards other clubs.

 

[Keith]

^ As long as he can stay fit or away from sepension I agree. Hope Everton hold on to him and Baines for that matter.

 

[Prodigy]

ONE GAME. One bloody game and every one says Manchester United are in crisis, and celebrate them losing more than their team winning. We lost last season, like 6 or 7 times, and we only lost the league on goal difference so yeah. I am not worried at all yet, Everton is a bogey team, I had a feeling the result wouldn't go our way and I'm glad they're out of the way now. Can't wait to see us thrash Fulham on the weekend and shut all the critics up.

 

[Lewb]

Fulham are another of United's bogey teams aswell mind. Haha

 

[Prodigy]

Doubt we'd make the same mistake against em .

 

[AZUCAR!]

Like Prod said, it was 1 game. The season isn't judged on 1 game, it's judged on 38 and there's still 37 more to go.

I'm looking forward to the weekend also and i'm confident we'll easily beat Fulham, especially since it's at Old Trafford.

 

[Dale]

Exactly, I hear this 'demise of Arsenal' talk every season (and your post was bang on but of course it's trolling if I post something.)

After Overmars/Petit left, after Adams retired, after Vieira left, Henry, Fabregas, etc etc.

Man Utd are heavily crippled with debt and just had a failure of a stock exchange flotation, have aging players like Ferdinand/Vidic/Evra/Scholes still starting regularly for them and just lost to a mid table side.

Now who is the real club in crisis here.

If this demise of Arsenal talk is nothing but a myth, so is the whole stuff about Man Utd being in a crisis with money. People keep banging on about the Glazers raping Man Utd and not giving any money for transfers yet look at all the money they've spent the past few seasons, hardly seems a crisis to me.

Also, i'm not sure if you're aware or not but Fergie spent heavily in getting Phil Jones and Chris Smalling, you know two guys who will eventually replace Rio and Vidic for years to come and have already had plenty of Premier League experience. Even though Vidic is aging he'll still be one of the best centre backs in the league if he gets anywhere near back to his form before he suffered his injury. The only place he hasn't strengthened which i'll give to you is centre midfield as they're seriously lacking in genuine quality outside of Scholes who is on his last legs.

Can't work out what your agenda is, whether it's bitterness, jealousy or just straight up trolling.

 

[AZUCAR!]

Adebayor has officially signed for Spurs from Man City. Should be interesting to find out what kind of wage he's going to be on, since he was on £170,000 a week at City.

Also, QPR have bid around £9 million for Michael Dawson which has been accepted by Spurs.

 

[Dod Draper]

Would love to see QPR go down after throwing stupid money around.