NXT - Weekly TV Show Discussion

[Grievous 3D]

Honestly, his turn made sense.

This arch makes sense and works very well.

To you it does...

It doesn't to me.

Agree to Disagree Badger.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Okay...so as I avoid spoilers for NXT...I have some comments
& questions that may have already been answered.

~ So...is that Nikki Cross/Bianca Belair feud over now?
~ Mercedes Martinez has a certain look to her...which I like...
~ This Gargano Heel turn isn't working for me...but the match
with Black should be excellent...
~ I honestly don't mind Lacey Evans...but her finishers is still as
dumb as a bag of fucking rocks...
~ Can we have a Women's WarGames match? Shayna, Jessamyn
& Marina vs. Kairi, Io & Dakota Kai...or Ma Yim? Can we book that?
~ And WarGames is The Undisputed Era vs. Ricochet, Pete Dunne
& the War Raiders?

Okay...some thoughts on that...
~ This means the tag, North American & U.K title will not be defended
at the WarGames pay per view...which I do not like...
~ Doesn't there need to be 3 teams in a WarGames match?

 

[Rosie]

Okay...some thoughts on that...
~ This means the tag, North American & U.K title will not be defended
at the WarGames pay per view...which I do not like...
~ Doesn't there need to be 3 teams in a WarGames match?

1. At least the NA, UK, and Tag champs are wrestling and I know they have defended their belts on NXT and NXT UK a few times over the past whole, so I can excuse it. (Aside from not being on TV for 4 months)

2. There have been War Games matches, quite a few actually which feature two teams. Probably the majority of them WarGames match - Wikipedia just so you can look it up.

 

[Grievous 3D]

1. At least the NA, UK, and Tag champs are wrestling and I know they have defended their belts on NXT and NXT UK a few times over the past whole, so I can excuse it. (Aside from not being on TV for 4 months)

I can't.

I mean why not have Cole & Ricochet fight for the North American
title before the WarGames match...then once that match has a result
lower the "cage" and have Ricochet & Cole be the first in the for their
respective teams?

I mean...I'm sure the audience wouldn't mind seeing Cole & Ricochet
"go the distance" & I'm sure they could handle it physically.

What's the point of having titles if they aren't going to be defended on
the biggest possible stage the company can provide?

Look...I'm sure the match itself will be great...it just feels off to me personally...
much like the Gargano Heel turn...which may end up not being a heel turn if
Nikki Cross is revealed to be a lair...or crazy...or both. Its funny because they
have booked a way out of it.

I think NXT is great...BUT...they don't get a free pass from me. If I have an
issue...I'm posting it.

2. There have been War Games matches, quite a few actually which feature two teams. Probably the majority of them WarGames match - Wikipedia just so you can look it up.

A fair call...

I just think the match would work better & have more
of a "gang mentality" with 3 teams of 3...much like NXT
booked in 2017.

 

[Rosie]

I can't.

I mean why not have Cole & Ricochet fight for the North American
title before the WarGames match...then once that match has a result
lower the "cage" and have Ricochet & Cole be the first in the for their
respective teams?

I mean...I'm sure the audience wouldn't mind seeing Cole & Ricochet
"go the distance" & I'm sure they could handle it physically.

What's the point of having titles if they aren't going to be defended on
the biggest possible stage the company can provide?

Look...I'm sure the match itself will be great...it just feels off to me personally...
much like the Gargano Heel turn...which may end up not being a heel turn
if Nikki Cross is revealed to be a lair...or crazy...or both.

I think NXT is great...BUT...they don't get a free pass from me. If I have an
issue...I'm posting it.


A fair call...

I just think the match would work better & have more
of a "gang mentality" with 3 teams of 3...much like NXT
booked in 2017.

I love the idea of a gang mentality, but I still am interested in a proper team vs team match (if I end up watching more again). However, for the first bit, agree to disagree. I still like titles to be defended on PPVs, but if they are in a featured match still and have defended it before, I can give it a pass. Regardless, WE CAN HAVE CHAOS! WAR!

*does a t-rex roar*

 

[Grievous 3D]

I love the idea of a gang mentality, but I still am interested in a proper team vs team match (if I end up watching more again). However, for the first bit, agree to disagree. I still like titles to be defended on PPVs, but if they are in a featured match still and have defended it before, I can give it a pass. Regardless, WE CAN HAVE CHAOS! WAR!

Fair call...

*does a t-rex roar*

 

[Rosie]

Evil Johnny Gargano, surprisingly works. Oops, I mean the same Johnny Gargano who just has to fight a little dirty and who isn't afraid of the dark anymore.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Okay...so...
~ Good to see Heavy Machinery get a win...
~ Its AWESOME to see Dakota Kai...and even more AWESOME that Dakota had a win!
~ A Mia Yim/Bianca Belair feud looks good on paper...but only because of Mia...
Bianca does nothing for me personally.
~ Shayna vs. Kairi...a 2 out of 3 falls match at WarGames...I just hope there is no
outside interference this time...perhaps banning Shayna's friends from ring side
may have been a smart move Mr. Regal? I'm also guessing this will be the last
match in the feud if Shayna wins? I mean we don't want this to turn into Charlotte
vs. Sasha 2.0...as good as the matches are...isn't time for someone else to
have a shot or at least be involved in the title picture?
~ So...you have the guy challenging for the NXT title defeated 10 days before
the actual pay per view? Shouldn't it be a triple threat match now with Sullivan
involved? Or is that getting announced next week? Either way...I know they
tried to protect Velveteen here...but a loss is a loss...at least it is in my book.
~ Heel/Dark/Angry Gargano is lame & doesn't work...I'm sure the match will
be great...but Heel Gargano does not work at all...IMO.

Evil Johnny Gargano, surprisingly works.

No it doesn't. Stop lying to yourself Badger.

I'm sure WarGames will be great...even if the card does look a little thin.

Shame we aren't getting a North American, tag or U.K title match on the card...

Hey! I have an idea...

Why not book a NXT U.K women's title match on the show?

Say...Rhea Ripley vs. Toni Storm...can we do that?

Can we?

 

[Snowman1]

Just wanna point out how awesome this card is.

And also say that the story told in the Lars/Dream main event was pretty good.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Just wanna point out how awesome this card is.

The WarGames card?

I don't know...it seems a little thin to me.

How about EC3 vs. Lars Sullivan?

Seems a shame for those guys to miss out
on the card...and I'm not the biggest fan of
either of them to be honest.

 

[Snowman1]

The WarGames card?

I don't know...it seems a little thin to me.

How about EC3 vs. Lars Sullivan?

Seems a shame for those guys to miss out
on the card...and I'm not the biggest fan of
either of them to be honest.

They can preshow that. Quality over quantity

 

[Grievous 3D]

Quality over quantity

Yeah...I agree...but...this card still seems a little thin to me.

Just my opinion...not trying to start a fight.

 

[Snowman1]

Watching Lacey Evans is so awkward lol.
Like I can see damn near infinite potential in her gimmick but she doesn't really know what she's doing with it... if that makes sense.
It's unique and cool but usually with NXT I can easily tell what they're going for. It's simple. Lacey feels over my head, lol

Bianca BelAir is the best developmental girl they've had in a while. Especially for how little experience she has. I'd love to see how well she can do in her run as champion after Shayna and Kairi get called up...

Then again, you'd want Kairi to drop the strap to BelAir but it's best to go with Shayna winning on Saturday to just go ahead and demote Kairi to Team Smackdown on Sunday - tag champs with Asuka? -...

If that's the case it's a shame that the babyface women are such non-entities by now. Building up BelAir and Lacey is great and all but... While Nikki Cross may still be on NXT and could transition, she can have another TV feud with Shayna while Dakota Kai feuds with Lacey Evans... I can absolutely see a story where weak little Kai gets kicked around by the Lady, stands up for herself Bayley-style and overcomes that obstacle, then by Rumble time Kai finally has the lady balls to step up to Shayna and fights off her brash bullying and attacks to kick her way past her abuser into the spotlight...

That would be cool.

Also I love Street Profits and Heavy Machinery, but that's such a waste of Montez Ford and Otis lol. Those two are money

 

[Grievous 3D]

Watching Lacey Evans is so awkward lol. Like I can see damn near infinite potential in her gimmick but she doesn't really know what she's doing with it... if that makes sense. It's unique and cool but usually with NXT I can easily tell what they're going for. It's simple. Lacey feels over my head, lol

While I agree Lacey is "Awkward" I would argue there are worse female
wrestlers currently working on the main roster...Hell...some of them have
been division Champions.

:emoji_rolling_eyes:

I think the gimmick/look is cool...in a "Calender Girl painted on side of the
the plane that dropped first atomic bomb" kind of way...but I cannot stand
her finisher. The only way a punch should be a finisher is if its with some
brass knuckles attached.

Bianca BelAir is the best developmental girl they've had in a while. Especially for how little experience she has. I'd love to see how well she can do in her run as champion after Shayna and Kairi get called up...

Honestly...Bianca does nothing for me. She's just a second rate Ember
Moon or Naomi...and I did not like seeing her go over Mia Yim.

Then again, you'd want Kairi to drop the strap to BelAir but it's best to go with Shayna winning on Saturday to just go ahead and demote Kairi to Team Smackdown on Sunday - tag champs with Asuka? -...

If that's the case it's a shame that the babyface women are such non-entities by now. Building up BelAir and Lacey is great and all but... While Nikki Cross may still be on NXT and could transition, she can have another TV feud with Shayna while Dakota Kai feuds with Lacey Evans... I can absolutely see a story where weak little Kai gets kicked around by the Lady, stands up for herself Bayley-style and overcomes that obstacle, then by Rumble time Kai finally has the lady balls to step up to Shayna and fights off her brash bullying and attacks to kick her way past her abuser into the spotlight...

The NXT women's division is still very shallow...and I
think its best for both Shayna & Kairi to stay put for now.

Nothing positive awaits Kairi on the main roster...she will
be treated as poorly as Asuka from the start.

Honestly...Shayna, Kairi, Dakota & Mia are all great...but
everyone else is just kind of 'Meh' to me.

When is Io Shirai going to make her NXT debut?

Can Rhea Ripley & Toni Storm come over from the U.K
for the next TakeOver?

Is Nikki Cross on the main roster or not?

So many questions...

Also I love Street Profits and Heavy Machinery

Yeah...its almost like the War Raiders came in & were
pushed above Heavy Machinery...which to me felt...
wrong in a way...if that makes sense.

So...after watching the WarGames go home show...I was
not surprised to see the Undisputed Era win the advantage...

I mean that's how you book a WarGames match right?

The face team/s can't have the advantage because it doesn't
work in a match like this.

I still think its disappointing EC3 & Lars Sullivan are missing
out on this card.

Question: Does anyone here think the Dream is actually going over?

 

[Jeffry Mason]

Honestly...Bianca does nothing for me. She's just a second rate Ember
Moon or Naomi...and I did not like seeing her go over Mia Yim.

Isn't she the one that does the 450? I'm a huge fan of both the other gals, but a lady who does a 450 regularly and doesn't make it look like shit is a keeper. So yes... Both Mia and Bianca are keepers in my book.

Doesn't there need to be 3 teams in a WarGames match?

I honestly sometimes forget how long you've watched wrestling lol. Traditionally it was 2 teams. And the only way to win was via forfeit. It was at one time truly the end all be all for wrestling feuds between factions. The only two that had 3 teams were the last one WCW put on, which was a train wreck, and last year's NXT one, which was totally shit on based on it being nothing like War games other than the structure. I don't personally care all that much for the story this year, considering one team is literally just thrown together. But it seems to me from what I've seen and read that they are keeping it much closer to traditional War Games than last year's abomination