Norse Mythology Mafia - Game Thread

[CraigPelton]

interesting. not sure if that makes lethal a liar. he seemed to be reading back though so its a rather....odd thing to miss. also interesting he singles me out specifically, and abandoned every on cp simply saying he looked fine on defence (which others have said).

The question we need to ask is, how many 'mistakes' before it becomes a trend? There was the mistake re: "E-Vs reads" around CP & the wagon on Lethal.

This mistake here and he also tried calling me scum for not voting D2 despite my role that he gave Ace stick because it was obvious & proven, to which he confirmed the botch.

Does Lethal make this many mistakes when pushing genuine cases?

One of you has got to be scum

Lethal is obviously town

 

[PHEN0M]

General scummy play. There isn't honestly a ton to go on right now other than reading people's play as we are yet to have a scum flip. But I have found his posting to be pretty scummy recently.

See below:

This was weak tea. Reeks of fake outrage and these sorts of posts inevitably end with players being coddled and, as we've seen with Smark in this game, town read - so it is a pretty easy out.

Quoting this post but the whole idea of doing this was extremely lazy and an easy way to not commit to a read on someone.

This exchange immediately interested me particularly since Gambit is my strongest town read and has been actively posting this sort of stuff to try get stuff going, so accusing him of fishing and trying to shut down that discussion so abruptly is a bit iffy.

Accusing Gambit of being lazy again. This certainly isn't the case, and scum reading Poyser/Magicv2 when he did really did seem based on nothing.

If Phenom were to have additional info on Poyser/Magicv2 he would be cognizant that his vote/scumlean looks weird without his own inside knowledge. So getting funny with Gambit for identifying this feels... questionable.


While I do kind of get that nothing happened yesterday, this continues in the vain of Phenom refusing to commit to anything - as previously highlighted in his following Barry's vote, hinting but not claiming info on Poyser/MagicV2, fake outrage = reason to coast.

This is great effort on your part with regards to a case. I’m sorry that the payout won’t be what you want/think it’s going to be if/when I flip.

My main issue with all of this is that you seem to generalize my play/look at my posts in the vacuum that is this game and fail to relate it to how i play.

The unvote and sheeping post i made at 5/6am my time, i just read 3-4 people say that my read was useless, how would you feel about it? That’s genuinely how i felt in that moment, I wasn’t looking for sympathy. Doddsy was the first person to ask me to vote so i did it before i left for a while.

I am actively outspoken anytime what i see might be fishing In any game i play, whether it’s me or someone else, this was no different. You can infer whatever you will about my words but do not ask me flat out to say something that I’m not willing to flat out say. When i want something to be known because i think it’s Important/concrete, I’ll make it known.

You indicating that I’m not committing to anything is false as well. I’ve committed to 5 town reads and 2 scum reads, ive posted those reads multiple times now. I’m not just passing through, coasting, or refusing to give reads. That last part of your case is disingenuous to me.

 

[PHEN0M]

That might be the most words I’ve typed in a mafia post in the last 5 years

 

[Roy Mustang]

I fail to see how me wanting someone who I find scummy to claim when they hint at info. Especially when I'm already voting them... y'know which will lead to a claim.

 

[PHEN0M]

That would be all well and good Gambit if there were a lot of other people who wanted the same as you and formed a wagon on me, but I’m not just going to claim because you and Barry want me to. You saw you couldn’t get the votes so you tried to do it without a wagon.

 

[NotBrutus]

Excellent. OMB is most likely scum.
Not a fan of the way he's responded to Lethal looking pretty obvtown here. He's being very selective about what he responds to and clearly isn't invested in helping solve the game. He had his easily simulatable spat with Haza that he pushed to a lynch and then has basically peaced out. I am very much leaning scum on Jeff.

Worth noting though that Poyser initially voted Jeff for having a weak start to the game. Now that's a fairly easy bus to make if you've got Jeff in your QT and you can tell him how to respond to come off town (just come in and start posting and pushing stuff, which is what happened and led to the Haza lynch). But Poyser also vanished and repped out so not sure how much communication there would've been. In any case, I'd lynch Jeff before I'd lynch Magic v2.

I was looking into the Haza wagon mostly and I agree with that. He knows he can rile Haza up, so he kept making comments towards him. His case on Haza wasn’t that good either tbh, it was mostly built off sheeping off CP (?). Then when he claims, he immediately dismissed it as desperation without even giving a second thought.

 

[NotBrutus]

And if OMB actually is scum, then so is Jeff. He was very adamant about not lynching him D1. So was Big Man too actually, let me look.

 

[Tweet]

This is false. I said day 1 no lynches are fine and specified they're not after that. You got more to work with after day 1 including night deaths.

And I legit don't know. Who do you want lynched and why?

Hmkay. Frankly I'm kinda stumped as well, OMB or Xenus would be my best bets atm.

 

[PHEN0M]

I fail to see how me wanting someone who I find scummy to claim when they hint at info. Especially when I'm already voting them... y'know which will lead to a claim.

Theres literally no info either.

 

[Roy Mustang]

That would be all well and good Gambit if there were a lot of other people who wanted the same as you and formed a wagon on me, but I’m not just going to claim because you and Barry want me to. You saw you couldn’t get the votes so you tried to do it without a wagon.

Your logic for calling me scum makes no sense... Why wouldn't I tell someone who is scummy as fuck to claim when they pretty much admit what there role is? And if the rest of town ain't going to join the wagon or any wagon, I'm actually going to do something.

Also guess what? If I was scum I actually drop it because YOU LITERALLY GAVE AWAY YOUR LIKELY ROLE WITH THE FIRST POST SAYING I HAVE REASONS NOT RELATED TO HIS POSTS. If I was scum I don't need to fish because you showed your hand for free.

 

[PHEN0M]

Your guess of roleblocker is wrong, you didn’t get the answer

 

[Evans]

Regarding your point on my CP vote, I believe the same people others have been saying recently re OMB - that lynching him was better than no lynching on D1 but now that we're deep, testing the Census doesn't offer enough value - particularly given we're yet to hit scum. You're right that me disappearing may look bad but honestly I just didn't come online last night lol.

My reposting of my Haza defence has been explained. I already showed how multiple people had taken individual quotes out of context so rather than continually deal with the drips of out of context single-quotes, I wanted to make my position clear.

Re: list, I wasn't trying to draw suspicion. I genuinely wanted to know why I wasn't on your list. It really shouldn't surprise you that the first thing I noticed with your list is that I wasn't on it.

There's no obvious reason scum would leave certain people off their list - if anything, they'd be more inclined to list everyone to avoid unwanted attention.

In regards to OMB/CP vote, yeah I can buy that, including the disappearing after. You at least left a vote and said you supported the rest of the reasoning. I would have expected you to have more reasoning than this though:

Also FWIW I'm happy to drop a vote CP here as the points made so far on him are solid.

What were the points you supported that lead to you leaving your vote on the CP wagon? I presume when you left you expected it could end up in a lynch. What justified that position for you?

Again, individually I understand wanting to reaffirm your position on the Haza stance to stop people twisting your words - you played last game with me, you know I hate that myself lol but in the bigger picture where you're a null read for me and you're making points about something that wasn't necessarily being discussed just to remind us how bad you feel and re-explain reasons for it felt disingenuous if that makes sense?

One of you has got to be scum

Lethal is obviously town

Why would I be? Explain please?

I agree based on Lethals claim that he's likely town - I don't think he fakes a claim like Odin lol. I also defended one of those mistakes I'm referencing in my post you've quoted.

I mean, I don't know why we're reading into something as pedantic off his mistake?

He said the same thing earlier to me here:





It's referring to my interaction with CP about why Haza over a no-lynch and this post below about CP posting his reasons for the Lethal vote later.



I understood what he meant and moved on from it and considering we're accepting typo's in the game, I think this is a non-starter

 

[PHEN0M]

Your anger is interesting too.

 

[Roy Mustang]

Theres literally no info either.

Well if you don't claim what I think you are hinting at, then I deffo voting to kill you. You said you had other reasons to vote Magic yesterday. So if it is not an info role, there is one type of role based on night one left

 

[Roy Mustang]

Your anger is interesting too.

Yeah it's almost as if I'm in a bad mood already after some random cunt assaulted me in real life and I'm not in a tolerant mood for bad logic...