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divas with actual talent don't need nor usually want to be in playboy
 

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^ This, yes. In fact, the ones with actual talent are usually opposed to even JOINING the Divas, and outright say so. Case and point, Sara Del Rey.
 

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I just believe women are more then tits and ass
 

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thats good for you, but don't call me "fucking crazy" for wanting to leave something to the imagination.
 

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Seeing them naked doesnt mean you cant respect them. They WANT to be in playboy, and its actually a clasys magazne, and clasys shoot. Still, as I said, the people like Beth Phoenix, Michelle, Natalya, Awesome Kong, Victoria, Gail Kim, etc wouldnt sell playboy stuff, but they are all good for putting on the matches, and thats whats needed, so they can stick to doing that. And the arm candy will always be there to sell sex, and if you dont liekl it, dont buy the magazine, but they look like even though they are keeping the arm candy around, they are keeping it seperate, which is good.
 

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The problem with it though is that they don't keep it separate when a girl poses for Playboy. They center entire feuds around it, feuds that completely overshadow the women's championship. And since most of the talented girls are heels, and the posed girl turned face, the taking clothes off for money is put over the talent.
 

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Seeing them naked doesnt mean you cant respect them. They WANT to be in playboy, and its actually a clasys magazne, and clasys shoot. Still, as I said, the people like Beth Phoenix, Michelle, Natalya, Awesome Kong, Victoria, Gail Kim, etc wouldnt sell playboy stuff, but they are all good for putting on the matches, and thats whats needed, so they can stick to doing that. And the arm candy will always be there to sell sex, and if you dont liekl it, dont buy the magazine, but they look like even though they are keeping the arm candy around, they are keeping it seperate, which is good.

Dude...Chyna posed for playboy, all them girls you named were hotter (cept for Kong)

And i know theres nothing wrong with playboy, but there is also nothing wrong with wanting to leave some to the imagination.
 

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The problem with it though is that they don't keep it separate when a girl poses for Playboy. They center entire feuds around it, feuds that completely overshadow the women's championship. And since most of the talented girls are heels, and the posed girl turned face, the taking clothes off for money is put over the talent.

I wont deny that, like fuckign Ashley getting a title match last year. but, last year, (WM 23 I mean) they weren dedicated to making the womens division proper, so it didnt make a difference that Ashley was on there... This year, yes, Maria got a mini storyline, but not a title match, lol... And I think that since WM, theyve been making them put on ebtetr matches, and now it is seperate, so I think they will always have people in playboy (yay) but keep it seperate as well, just like they are starting now (yay)
 

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here are some intresting facts I noticed in this thread.

1) HHHForever got mad at Diesel even though Diesel was proving HHHForever's point as he kept talking about tits and ass.

2) Roxxi says that the WWE overshadows the improtance of the Womens title by having a fued center around playboy. (I agree) however Kong being a dominate Women's champion then getting her ass nearly handed to her by a suposed "fan" and fighting only fans lately completly degrades the TNA's womens title.

3) Everyone is actually arguing the same point. Roxxi says TNA's womens division is better. Others are saying some fans prefer T&A over women's wrestling....both statements are true.

4) Roxxi likes to speculate that if WWE said the words TNA on the air the ratings would jump to a 3.0 over night shows how much Roxxi just talks out of his ass since ratings just don't jump that much no matter what. And to believe that anyone who did tune into TNA would automatically become loyal TNA fans after that is foolish as well. Remember its about variety. The reason why WWE's ratings have been hovering in the same area for a long time was because they were the only choice and they offered there style. TNA needs to be different to be sucsessful. Being another clone of the WWE isn't going to help TNA. But by being different your recognizing that your only going to get fans that want something different from the WWE. The ones that want what the WWE offers are not going to watch TNA. And if your a WWE clone well the fans will stick with WWE. But Roxxi seems to think that no one wants what the WWE offers. But if that was true people like me who are fully aware of TNA would not be watching WWE anymore, yet I still prefer WWE.