MTG Mafia, Angels vs. Enemies - Game Thread

[Evans]

I'll address this further on in my catchup posting that I'll get to

@Darth Lethal I'm still waiting why you're bringing this up when if anything my points about it not confirming Jeff was pushing him as scum.

 

[Lethal]

So again you're trying to tell us you were basically up to speed with the game and had your mind made up about Jeff, but decided to give him town points for the Big Man stuff anyway and revoke them soon after?

If that's how it appears, then yes. I want to treat each post on its own merit, hence my vote in spirit on Jeff. His case on Big Man looked impressive like town Jeff who makes effort. Then in further posts, he started his non-commital and Poyser sheeping on 3/4 of the votes. I thought it was 4/4 but was corrected. It's how I've played the last crapload of games, it's how I'll continue to play.

I have a scum lean on OMB but how exactly is the case rock solid please?

Also, you said you would answer why you were bringing up my posts about Jeff's claim / Barry's interpretation. Wanna follow up on that promise please?

I said Poyser's case is rock solid. His read on OMB is genuine and makes a lot of sense. The fact OMB has disappeared is crippling to his ability to suggest his town allegiance.

 

[Lethal]

@Darth Lethal I'm still waiting why you're bringing this up when if anything my points about it not confirming Jeff was pushing him as scum.

As I said, I see things that pique my interest and I address them, regardless of whether or not they are addressed next post or whatever. I even mentioned in my postings that Barry handled that himself, and the notion of you pushing the confirmed town was fractured at best

 

[Banez]

This night phase has lasted long.

 

[Evans]

I said Poyser's case is rock solid. His read on OMB is genuine and makes a lot of sense. The fact OMB has disappeared is crippling to his ability to suggest his town allegiance.

Yes, I know you did. How is it rock solid? (Not that I disagree with it). You've referenced the case Poyser has built himself as opposed to OMB's disappearance. What about that case is rock solid? Was it the tell?

 

[Lethal]

Anyone else going to be asked questions? So many posts, I'm exhausted

 

[Tweet]

Huh. Well I got no buys for that tbh but the fact that you stick to that story anyway throws me for a spin.

 

[Evans]

As I said, I see things that pique my interest and I address them, regardless of whether or not they are addressed next post or whatever. I even mentioned in my postings that Barry handled that himself, and the notion of you pushing the confirmed town was fractured at best

You haven't addressed it though. You've ignored it and Barry isn't confirmed town, yet lol.

 

[Lethal]

Yes, I know you did. How is it rock solid? (Not that I disagree with it). You've referenced the case Poyser has built himself as opposed to OMB's disappearance. What about that case is rock solid? Was it the tell?

The tell that Poyser stated is that OMB as scum rarely if ever votes his team mates. As town, OMB will suss anything that moves and post countless speculation. In Nintendo, he had me correctly painted as scum on GUT and even guessed my character correctly, but he couldn't push the lynch or kill through. He didn't vote at all during the day phase this game, and hasn't been seen the whole night phase.

 

[Poyser]

For a change I want to say Tweets is town. He started the wagon on the guy I thought was most scummy in Jeff. I don't buy for a second that he'd bus a teammate such as Jeff (even though Tweet loves a bus). Playing positively with tweets, rather than having tunnel vision on wanting to see him swing, is something I want to do and have started here.

Banez just feels natural and trying to be productive. As scum, he tends to shy away and lurk in the shadows. An invested Banez is a town Banez, for mine. Unless of course he has a motivator role and pulling an elaborate ruse.

Rugrat is the old vintage GUT feeling. I struggle to read him scum, so it's easier to lean town for now.

Brutus as I mentioned above, he has a tendancy to hide away and be very selective with his contributions as scum. It's why I asked how the pond was - alluding to the notion I believed he was ducking the thread. He has posted a little more now, which is good as it provides content to analyse. I'm sticking with the lean though until he does something I am impressed by,

Uhhh I like made a point to specifically point out that your town read of tweet came before the jeff flip and wanted to know your reason for it and here you’re reading him town solely based off of the jeff flip lmao

What do you think of the “content” brutus has provided so far? You’ve generically said he’s provided some but I don’t really remember anything game related so I’d be interested in your analysis

 

[Lethal]

Huh. Well I got no buys for that tbh but the fact that you stick to that story anyway throws me for a spin.

I'm sorry if it's sending you for a spin, but it's how I do things.

You haven't addressed it though. You've ignored it and Barry isn't confirmed town, yet lol.

You're trying to twist my words. You tried to twist Barry as saying Jeff was confirmed town, when he wasn't. It was only the loved caveat that was confirmed. Barry revoted and pushed for the lynch of Jeff too.

 

[Poyser]

I'm actually a little insulted that you think I'm going to fall back into old habits. That play was abysmal, got me mocked constantly and affected my performances game after game. I stopped doing that, and presto, consecutive HMs. OMB isn't going to be the brains behind the operation on a scum team, but Jeff could be. That's why I wanted the stronger player. OMB rambling about being hurt/miffed by tier discussion was an attempt to try and distract everyone from what was going on.

Ok, Let’s say I give you benefit of the doubt here. Can you think of an example or a game where you’ve been convinced somebody is scum, but instead elected to search for a stronger target instead of wanting to lynch them?

 

[Poyser]

If that's how it appears, then yes. I want to treat each post on its own merit, hence my vote in spirit on Jeff. His case on Big Man looked impressive like town Jeff who makes effort. Then in further posts, he started his non-commital and Poyser sheeping on 3/4 of the votes. I thought it was 4/4 but was corrected. It's how I've played the last crapload of games, it's how I'll continue to play.



I said Poyser's case is rock solid. His read on OMB is genuine and makes a lot of sense. The fact OMB has disappeared is crippling to his ability to suggest his town allegiance.

What was impressive or towny about the big man “case”?

 

[Evans]

The tell that Poyser stated is that OMB as scum rarely if ever votes his team mates. As town, OMB will suss anything that moves and post countless speculation. In Nintendo, he had me correctly painted as scum on GUT and even guessed my character correctly, but he couldn't push the lynch or kill through. He didn't vote at all during the day phase this game, and hasn't been seen the whole night phase.

No, the tell from Poyser was that OMB gives gut reads to town as scum and gut reads to scum when town.

You're trying to twist my words. You tried to twist Barry as saying Jeff was confirmed town, when he wasn't. It was only the loved caveat that was confirmed. Barry revoted and pushed for the lynch of Jeff too.

No, I'm not. You promised to address it later on and never did and now you're backtracking saying Barry addressed it lol.

Lynch proof has been a fairly big discussion point on here recently pal.

Did I wrongfully assume in one post you’d said loved townie? Yes. Am I spinning a narrative? No.

If I could have made answers to those questions to feature a pun of a band I would have, but there isn’t a band called the No, No, No’s sadly

Also, I admitted to a mistake when I said Barry called Jeff loved town. So I'm not twisting Barry's words here in the slightest. Barry is someone I have a town lean on.

So, despite all of these "read backs" that you've done, you've got some big points there incorrect (including you being wrong about who voted OMB first out of Poyser/Jeff despite there being evidence and a discussion about this in a thread, hours before you showed up).

 

[Poyser]

This night phase has lasted long.

He said everybody has to post or it’s going 24 hours. OMB hasn’t posted since his interaction with me lol