MTG Mafia, Angels vs. Enemies - Game Thread

[Poyser]

If OMB ends up not being scum tho

 

[Tweet]

In spirit I'm going to leave my vote on Jeff. He's on 6/10 so far, that's plenty enough to enable a claim or a reaction.

I like the detective work here. Town points.

Those town points I had before? Yeah, you can get rid of them right now. The blatant sheeping of Poyser is just, idk, wanting to appear constructive and hunting and setting Poyser up to be the fall guy if it's the wrong tree.

Town (Leans):
Poyser, Barry, EV, Chris, Tweets, Banez, Rugrat, CP

Scum (Leans):
OMB, Jeff, Brutus

Null:
Lawls, Juice, Alco, PHEN0M, Big Man, Magic

Pretty comfortable with this. Will be back in a little bit to see how this thread develops.

Oh and Jeff has 83 posts, post count is a weird tell for his. Natural posting aligns to his town ness, and some of his posts have appeared a little forced to me, but that could just be wishful thinking of landing a big fish on Day 1.

To answer both of you. I had read through the thread and made little notes on my Excel doc to say that Jeff seemed scummy. I then used it as my entry thread before inserting the quotes that I'd selected to analyse and provide thoughts/comments on. The vote is in spirit because he's now on 7 votes out of 10 needed, and even though I'm feeling a scummy vibe from him, I'm not going to assist blind lynch a guy in his sleep.

Poyser, I'm essentially leaning scum on Jeff because he's sheeping you moreso than he does Odo, and doesn't seem to be generating much of all outside of his earlier attempt of case on Big Man.

Sheeping you ask? You voted Big Man, Jeff followed. You voted EV, Jeff followed. You voted OMB, Jeff followed. You voted Magic, Jeff danced around asking if it was needed, then voted.

Right these are a couple posts I wanna talk about. If you read this last post, he says he read through the entire thread and made notes, and then supposedly came back in and commented on stuff as he went along. If he did that and came up with a scum read on Jeff, that'd be no problem, but then if you reread the way he actually entered the thread, he clearly has some back and forth going on there with first giving Jeff town points for the detective work and then taking them away at another point, so that story doesn't quite seem to add up.

The other issue is that the town points he gave Jeff are for that little comparison of Big Mans entrances which Magic and I gave Jeff scum leans for cause it's just information without conclusion. Could just be that we just have different perspectives there but again, seems strange.

I'd like Lethal to talk to me about this stuff.

 

[Tweet]

Oh and also I'm not sure I believe that Jeff sheeping Poyser all over the place is so unusual for Jeff you gotta call him scum for it.

 

[Alco]

I'm sure Rugrat is capable enough to mimic his troll-meta to appear as no fucks given town tbh. Especially since he's eyeing a higher tier for himself (I don't care if he denies or confirms this)

 

[Evans]

Right these are a couple posts I wanna talk about. If you read this last post, he says he read through the entire thread and made notes, and then supposedly came back in and commented on stuff as he went along. If he did that and came up with a scum read on Jeff, that'd be no problem, but then if you reread the way he actually entered the thread, he clearly has some back and forth going on there with first giving Jeff town points for the detective work and then taking them away at another point, so that story doesn't quite seem to add up.

The other issue is that the town points he gave Jeff are for that little comparison of Big Mans entrances which Magic and I gave Jeff scum leans for cause it's just information without conclusion. Could just be that we just have different perspectives there but again, seems strange.

I'd like Lethal to talk to me about this stuff.

What throws me off about Lethal is that these "notes" he made about Jeff were all things that had been discussed already in the thread. If he'd also read the thread properly and made notes, there was evidence and a few posts that detailed Jeff's sheeping of Poyser and Jeffs vote on OMB was ahead of Poysers. No way Lethal should be getting that piece of information wrong considering it was addressed here.

 

[Tweet]

What throws me off about Lethal is that these "notes" he made about Jeff were all things that had been discussed already in the thread. If he'd also read the thread properly and made notes, there was evidence and a few posts that detailed Jeff's sheeping of Poyser and Jeffs vote on OMB was ahead of Poysers. No way Lethal should be getting that piece of information wrong considering it was addressed here.

Good point, he brought up the fact that Jeff sheeped Poyser a lot somewhere in the middle of his catchup process when Brutus and I had already had a small interaction on that topic before Lethal even entered the thread. Him reading Jeff scum for that smells like a bus to me, like he'd read the stuff that went on and more or less randomly picked one of the points that people made to have a reason to read Jeff scum and blend in.

 

[Poyser]

What throws me off about Lethal is that these "notes" he made about Jeff were all things that had been discussed already in the thread. If he'd also read the thread properly and made notes, there was evidence and a few posts that detailed Jeff's sheeping of Poyser and Jeffs vote on OMB was ahead of Poysers. No way Lethal should be getting that piece of information wrong considering it was addressed here.

Pretty sure that discussion was after lethal’s entrance tbh. That came when Jeff reappeared

 

[Tweet]

Brutus asked me about my opinion of Jeffs sheeping of Poyser on page 32, and Lethal entered on page 36 unless I missed other posts of his that came earlier.

 

[Poyser]

Brutus asked me about my opinion of Jeffs sheeping of Poyser on page 32, and Lethal entered on page 36 unless I missed other posts of his that came earlier.

EV was talking about lethal should know that Jeff’s OMB vote came before mine; which wasn’t discussed until later

 

[Poyser]

The problem I have with all this is lethal provided his notes 5 mins after I asked for them and it has pretty detailed vote counts there. I don’t think it’s possible to do all of that as well as grab a picture in 5 mins so the possibilities for me here are

A) Lethal is town and legit
B) Lethal is scum and was already tracking votes anyway and just added in his notes when I asked which is why they seem bare bones

Has lethal done his vote count analysis as scum before does anybody know?

 

[Evans]

Pretty sure that discussion was after lethal’s entrance tbh. That came when Jeff reappeared

Nah, I addressed it at 8am-ish in the morning.

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So @Showtime isn't wrong about Jeff following every single one of @Poysers wagons

Lethal's first post wasn't until the afternoon of that day.

In spirit I'm going to leave my vote on Jeff. He's on 6/10 so far, that's plenty enough to enable a claim or a reaction.

 

[Evans]

EV was talking about lethal should know that Jeff’s OMB vote came before mine; which wasn’t discussed until later

Nope, also covered this at 9:54am.

vote Jeff

I'm happy with this direction, reading back he's been buddying Poyser on all but one vote.

Poyser votes Magic 8:44 PM - Jeff votes Magic 8:49 PM
Poyser votes OMB 8:21 PM - Jeff votes OMB 8:14 PM
Poyser votes E-V 7:05 PM - Jeff votes E-V 7:10 PM
Poyser votes Big Man 5:55 PM - Jeff votes Big Man 6:56 PM

His entrance to the game is much different to the previous games as well where Jeff has been playing town.

 

[Tweet]

I'm not about to conclusively condemn Lethal in his absence either, but I would like his response to this stuff.

 

[Poyser]

Tbf, I read that post assuming it backed up the jeff sheeping angle, didn’t notice his OMB vote time was earlier than mine

 

[Poyser]

I’m gonna go find lethal’s last scum game hold on