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It has nothing to do with stubbornness...at least not on their part. It has to do with the way we have, are, and probably will continue to treat them. Yeah, I agree Obama is probably going to waste his time, but not because of them. I don't think anyone else would approve whatever it may take to set us straight with them.Sterl said:I'm aware of that, and the reasons why the Taliban wouldn't listen to us is because this. There stubborn beliefs on us won't change, and Obama is just going to waste his time trying.