Not every week, but they DO cut promo's on each other ... I'm sure you've heard of the legendary promo's of a certain Mohammed Ali...? Never seen a press conference where Don King had the guys so psyched, trading insults etc, that they wanted to 'kill' each other there and then?
keyword: not every week. and those "promos" are more comparable to post-match interviews with football managers and players. boxing is so different and so not the case here. bad example
and fyi i was kind of a boxing fan at some point so i know what you're talking about.
...The boxers aren't exactly scholars yet it still doesn't decesnd into "motherfucker this" & "cunt that".
when did i ever ask for the show to be like that? even so, saying that shit is likely to happen if you're REALLY pissed off. remember edge vs matt feud?
No less 'storyline' than a typical wrestling match... Diff is one's a true story unfolding as you watch, the other is fiction. Why wouldn't you want the reality to inform the fiction as much as poss? IF realism is truly what you are interested in that is. (My main and original point.)
YESS less storyline than a typical wrestling match of this era. we're not in the 80s anymore. just look at the orton/mcmahon storyline, do you see anything like that in boxing? NO. all im asking is when it calls for it, even though its rare(and i dont mind), its not gonna hurt to drop a bad word like "ass" or "bitch". nothing as heavy as fuck or cunt.
Wrestlers were telling storylines in the ring long before 10-min in-ring promo's, live weekly TV and all the trimmings. The match itself is predominantly the story.
wrong. try to watch hbk/flair, rock/austin or rock/hogan without the back story. its not the same.
It's a show ABOUT a SUPPOSEDLY competetive sport so, again, why not have the reality inform the fiction as much as possible if beleivabilty is your concern...?
are you sure you watched the rocky series? because if you did you're gonna know what im talking about. do you just watch the in-ring performance and not the promos? because you can only do that in REAL competitive sports and not pro wrestling. at least not today's. seriously, that thats the difference between the wrestling and any other competitive sport. you are soooooooooooooooooooooooooo 80s.
They still have the wrestlers bleed when the situation warrants it. Not sure what else you are driving at here...?
i was responding to your comment where you said boxers dont bleed in every match. as opposed, they do swell every match. way to trash what i was saying.
you cant deny that there's a lot less blood these days than there was in the past. while i still like raw these days, a lot of times its better to have backstage brawls (which means weapons are gonna be used....which means we should see some blood). also, whats with this
not so EXTREEEEME championship wrestling? you cant be extreme without weapons or blood. for the last time, im not a fan of death matches or hardcore matches but it becomes fucking boring when you only see them countable times a year.
and would you people (not just you, airfixx) please stop with all these "if you want women, go watch porn. if you want blood, watch a horror film. if you want swearing, listen to a rap song" shit? its fucking bullshit. if all you want to fucking see is WRESTLING, watch the fucking olympics and dont ever try to watch pro wrestling again.
Sorry, could just be me, but I simply don't find it entirely unbeleivable that a person can express themselves WITHOUT resulting to profanity (especially when being portrayed as being a proffesional athlete who is, in some characters cases - e.g. Hogan, Cena etc. - a wholesome rolemodel for kids.)
its just you then. in most real fights and feuds (the kind of storylines wwe does...like the hhh/orton one) people tend to lose control of themselves and drop a couple of words.
and when the fuck did i say i wanted hogan and cena to say that? role models are role models. the rest aren't so its not gonna hurt to see them go for profanity.
Rubbish. Those same emotions can be expressed just as effectively with a decent comand of language. In fact, when hearing someone letting off a heart-felt rant, any swearing usually DETRACTS from the emotion.
wrong. its not like wrestlers debate their cases, they're supposed to be feuds...personal ones. you're demanding people to say the word fuck without saying the word fuck. what the fuck?
please answer me. how the fuck am i gonna believe that a film like american history x is real if the n word is not used at all? is that really hard to get to your mind?
and the thing about emotions, if you really think its rubbish after the examples then i have no clue how to make you understand this. perhaps if others read this they might. seriously, you live in a perfect world. when was the last time you heard the word fuck irl?
I hate censorship too, but aside from the censoring the odd moment of footage from a different era so that it suits todays market (see the Evolution clip we spoke of), there is NO "censorship" going on.
before they
officially changed raw's rating to PG13, there was. not too long ago.
oh and why censor DVDs?
"For nothing"???? ....So the sole purpose of the EC rather than having a standard match is to create the platform for some blading? Get the fuck outta here! ...That's bullshit and I don't beleive your dumb enough to truly think such a thing!
rofl yes, thats basically what the EC match is hyped to be. you said you've never watched any 2002 raw, maybe thats why you dont get it. EC made its debut as this match that leaves no one the same after all the "carnage". so yea. how many times have you heard commentators say "no man will ever walk the same after this match"? why do you think they say that? because the match is about 4 guys who are kept inside a glass chamber waiting their turn to get in?
try watching the first ever EC match and compare it to the ones from last week. i liked last week's but that doesn't mean it really served the real purpose of the
match type. a hardcore match can end without any weapons used and still be a GREAT match (like most hbk's matches) but whats the use of the word "hardcore"?
its not my opinion, its a FACT.
Who knows, but MITB@WM24 & HBK/Jericho & a number of Jeff Hardy matches from last year argue otherwise.
yea but what if it happens? what are you gonna say about that?
I'm trying to illustrate the fact that that clip would have been just as effective when it first aired if Orton HADN'T been seen to say "fuck"... His facial expression alone would have seen to that.
..............sure. i still dont like censorship, especially if its something from the past. good decision on their behalf to attract new fans or not is none of my business. im just a fan who watches the show every week and judges what he likes and what he does not like.
i get what you're trying to say though.
Re: Vicki.... If you could buy a t-shirt with her on the front in her bogus wheel chair and the quote "Excuse me!!!" on the back, I'd be wearing one as we 'speak'...
then i would literally stab you in the back if i saw you.
