dethfvk said:What do you mean by "crazy shit"? Lol
High risk moves or something? If so, it still doesn't mean shit.. Sabu, for example, is a crazy mother fucker but he still sucks.ity:
And yeah, seen that vid :dawg:
Jose Tortilla said:Don't know.. Hardy has done more crazy shit thank Punk will ever dare to do..
Also, Punk vs Hardy got a little personal, aye..
Watch this..
DannyWoods11 said:That was more sad to watch more than anything. Jeff has all the talent in the world but does things like this which makes people back off him. Thanks for posting this man
Jose Tortilla said:But still, even though Jeff was under influence of something here, I think he still spoke the truth. Those things he does can make people speak out about things, like this.
Him making Punk, I can believe that.
DannyWoods11 said:Well he didn't make punk the straight edge guy. Punk was doing the same gimmick in ROH and his first promo with the wwe was the straight edge stuff. Maybe it brought it more to light because hardy was a known druggie and punk a straight edge guy. I think the rivalry was good for both of them but obviously benefiting Punk more to wwe fans. I do believe punk would have become big with or without hardy though.
Jose Tortilla said:Nah nah, that's not what I'm saying..
What kind of big thing did CM Punk do before he went over Hardy?
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DannyWoods11 said:Won money in the bank and a short title reign
Jose Tortilla said:But it did not made him ''yet''..
DannyWoods11 said:That was a great series of matches but if we are talking general wwe fans and hardcore wrestling fans there is a difference. Hardcore fans loved punk even before the wwe or right when he made it to ecw. General wwe fans really didn't notice punk until that fued with cena/Mcmahon/The whole company
Stopspot said:Hardy didn't make Punk, the Streight Edge Society made Punk. They go over it on the DVD.
Crayo said:Depends on the definition of "made". SES didn't make Punk a main eventer, the shoot promo did. SES was the opportunity Punk wanted at showing how good he is at being a heel though.