Jade Cargill/Shayna Baszler backstage altercation, Cargill unpopular backstage

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Also wasn't Dale's whole shtick about Punk succeeding more in WWE is that they do in fact control and "baby" their talent by ensuring this type of things does get squashed immediately?

So in this case, if it is still coming out, has it been squashed? Because, to me, it sounds like the source is pretty obvious and it's not been squashed and there is still some sour grapes
 

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Yea, I don't think "Y'all better be buddy buddy" works, if it'd come from the higher ups, who most definitely not treat everyone on the roster the same.

Just put yourself in that position. You working your ass off year after year for a company. They then bring in a new person, who gets immediately promoted, not just past you, but two, three levels above you, even though they simply can not and have not put in the same work as you AND they not just believe that they deserve this position in the company from the get go, but also behave like that towards you and the other colleagues on your level.
... I doubt anyone in that position would be okay with being told to "just be friends"

"The heat was the claim by other women that when there were problems in the ring, she’d blame the other person and was disrespectful."
I'm pretty sure it's a safe bet you can believe these "claims". All the signs have been there since day one, that this could be the way it would go down.
 

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As much as Jade's getting a push, If it were a shoot who would win? Shayna has MMA experience but who knows... Just seems like it's a planned spot and it looked botch. It's s a good talking point for us all.
 
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Shayna would kill her lol Jade is soft as baby shit if she's complaining about bruises while Liv Morgan looks like she's been a train wreck every PPV
Haha. Just with her size Jade looks like she could handle herself but yeah your right.
 

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They should put this into storyline as I don't think Shayna is gonna be on much longer. Put her to get let go this year. She's ok in ring but not very good at promos.
 

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Because people shouldn't have to be babied, there's egos everywhere and people are gonna clash / not get along and that's fine. If it starts bleeding over onto TV and people are taking liberties and going off script then you've got a problem that you need to step in and sort out.
Yeah that’s literally what they’re doing ergo my point.
 

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Yea, I don't think "Y'all better be buddy buddy" works, if it'd come from the higher ups, who most definitely not treat everyone on the roster the same.

Just put yourself in that position. You working your ass off year after year for a company. They then bring in a new person, who gets immediately promoted, not just past you, but two, three levels above you, even though they simply can not and have not put in the same work as you AND they not just believe that they deserve this position in the company from the get go, but also behave like that towards you and the other colleagues on your level.
... I doubt anyone in that position would be okay with being told to "just be friends"


I'm pretty sure it's a safe bet you can believe these "claims". All the signs have been there since day one, that this could be the way it would go down.
Too bad. That’s how wrestling works. Sometimes superstars get quick pushes. Brock Lesnar became WWE champ in 6 months. Kurt Angle became champ in a year.
WWE books things a certain way because they need to shake things up. Some superstars are booked to be monsters who make it to the top quickly. If every single star came in and went through the exact same process of taking years to come up, being a mid carder, then finally getting the feel good main event run, it would be boring. You need some superstars to be successful quickly to shake things up.

And if you got a problem go to management lmao. It’s still petty to start fighting on twitter. Like the fuck :lol
 

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well Brock was also a collegiate athlete with multiple wrestling titles, and was actually trained. pretty big difference than a body builder who gets gassed 5 in and is a botch machine AND is complaining about ppl being too rough. fuck that diva shit lol
 

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well Brock was also a collegiate athlete with multiple wrestling titles, and was actually trained. pretty big difference than a body builder who gets gassed 5 in and is a botch machine AND is complaining about ppl being too rough. fuck that diva shit lol
Well she doesn’t need to complain about anyone lol but I think she’s overhated too lol
I’ve never had a problem with her matches.
 

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Well she doesn’t need to complain about anyone lol but I think she’s overhated too lol
I’ve never had a problem with her matches.
Over hated by who?
 

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I haven't seen too much hating until this report outside a few ppl saying her matches are butt
 

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I haven't seen too much hating until this report outside a few ppl saying her matches are butt
Exactly. I think her matches are fine. She comes across as a real powerhouse and threat.
 

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Yea, I don't think "Y'all better be buddy buddy" works, if it'd come from the higher ups, who most definitely not treat everyone on the roster the same.

Just put yourself in that position. You working your ass off year after year for a company. They then bring in a new person, who gets immediately promoted, not just past you, but two, three levels above you, even though they simply can not and have not put in the same work as you AND they not just believe that they deserve this position in the company from the get go, but also behave like that towards you and the other colleagues on your level.
... I doubt anyone in that position would be okay with being told to "just be friends"


I'm pretty sure it's a safe bet you can believe these "claims". All the signs have been there since day one, that this could be the way it would go down.
The part you highlighted is a problem in society as a whole. With the rise of social media and parents being friends and not parents, this is what we get.

I deal with it every day with kids who think they are great and better than everyone else and the world owes them everything. The only thing most of the kids I work with are good at is not following rules or the law.

I have one who was adopted by an elderly family when she was 9 months old because her mom was strung out on drugs. She has this same attitude and thinks they need to get her what she wants when she wants or she yells and screams at them. I got her because she choked her 72 year old mother because they sent her 21 year old boyfriend to jail when she is 14. Same mentality we have become a society of low accou tabiouty for our own actions and blaming others for their own.


I can also see this within the back as they can have issues when people get pushed ahead of others.
 
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No doubt Jade has the best look outta all the Women but she's needs to learn how to wrestle. She's got access to the best trainers and all the advice from the top wrestlers, agents who've been and done it all in regards of experience. She gets loud reactions from crowds and is good on the mic.