Is Chris Jericho the GOAT?

[Smart Marx]

New Jack is the epitome of what a pro wrestler is......good and bad.

Rebel, crazy and was an individual......also, violent, junkie and burned bridges because of same attributes that made him memorable.

See how easy it is to make an argument like this?

I take this argument as seriously as when you comment that Cena is the GOAT, doesn't mean I don't think you're allowed to make it.

 

[Smart Marx]

GOAT or not, I would argue Jericho is the most relevant wrestler of the modern era.

In WCW alone he consistently changed his character and when he debuted in WWE he became an instant classic doing a Y2K mockery.

Despite how over he was doing his Y2J gimmick, he left WWE several time to come back doing something completely different.

Now he's in AEW doing it all over again and whom at 50 can say they're still as over as they were while doing something new?

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no.

 

[Smart Marx]

Short answer, no.

Long answer, no.

Got a counter at least?

 

[Chris]

I take this argument as seriously as when you comment that Cena is the GOAT, doesn't mean I don't think you're allowed to make it.

Wait I think he really is serious about Cena tho lol

As for Jericho....Top 10

 

[Smart Marx]

Wait I think he really is serious about Cena tho lol

As for Jericho....Top 10

He is, probably. I just don’t agree. My point was we can disagree with whom he thinks is the GOAT and I still by his right to say it. That’s why we’re here.

 

[Hoss]

Cena = GOAT is a fine take in my book.

 

[Smart Marx]

Cena = GOAT is a fine take in my book.

I know you do.

 

[Deezy]

Most relevant wrestler is The Rock......retired or not.

Jericho is relevant in the bubble......highest profile thing he's done the past year was a cameo in a Kevin Smith movie.

 

[Hoss]

Tbf to Jericho, Fozzy is a fairly successful band. Doesn't compare to Rock's fame though. And for that matter it doesn't compare to Brock's fame either.

EDIT: Or Cena's...

 

[Smart Marx]

When I say relevant, I mean in the bubble. What can be said about the Rock can be said about any celebrity.

WCW did massive buys on PPV when they had Dennis Rodman, Karl Malone and even Jay Leno wrestle a match.

 

[Deezy]

They were all tied to Hulk Hogan.

They weren't wrestling Prince Iaukea FFS.

 

[Smart Marx]

Relevant and fame are also not entirely the same thing.

They were all tied to Hulk Hogan.

They weren't wrestling Prince Iaukea FFS.

Yeah, you bring in celebrities and put them with your top draw. It's not rocket science.

Fact is Bash at the Beach outdrew WrestleMania that year. Because of the celebrities that were booked on the show.

Even that Mania was a record-breaking draw because Tyson's involvement. Celebrities outside the bubble draw.

 

[Deezy]

And they can also bomb.....we've had decades to show us that.

Jesus, WCW had tons of celebrity involvement that went nowhere.

Not to mention WWE's blunders with celebs......you're skirting the issue.

Rock wasn't some outsider looking for a payday.

Most recognizable star in pro wrestling not named Steve Austin or Hulk Hogan......Jericho isn't even in their tax bracket.

 

[Smart Marx]

And they can also bomb.....we've had decades to show us that.

Jesus, WCW had tons of celebrity involvement that went nowhere.

Not to mention WWE's blunders with celebs......you're skirting the issue.

Rock wasn't some outsider looking for a payday.

Most recognizable star in pro wrestling not named Steve Austin or Hulk Hogan......Jericho isn't even in their tax bracket.

WCW blundering the booking of later celebrity involvement doesn't invalidate the evidence that they draw when used right.

Also, relevant and most famous aren't the same thing. I don't give two shits about Rock being more famous. That's not debatable.

I was talking about Jericho's ability to stay relevant to WRESTLING FANS, SPECIFICALLY. While remaining a full-time worker.