Hazard Kicks The Ballboy

[Robbie Coletrain]

If your uncle accidentally kicked a kid by trying to get the ball out, he wouldn't be arrested. I presume he would say "Are you okay? I'm sorry, I meant to hit the ball" - and then it would all be well.

If the kid was going on the same way he did he would have been, of course the kid isn't hurt but we can't possibly know that for definite, if a kid is rolling around on the floor in "pain" after being kicked by an adult then that is assault, also look at the fact that Hazard made absolutely no effort to apologize to the kid and instead was seen laughing about it, he deserves to be punishec imo and even if he does apologize he still dudn't realize the error of his ways at the time which you would have to be a complete imbecile not to.

 

[Swift]

Should have kicked him in the face and throat. Would make good TV.

 

[Robbie Coletrain]

Yes, it's fine! I once threw my little brother on the bed in a play fight, he fell off and hit his head on the wall, should I be arrested for assault? That analogy fits perfectly with this by the way, so don't go and say they are completely different situations. He went to nick the ball away from the boy with his toes, that was obvious so putting it in quotations is moronic. He accidentally kicked the boy instead -- not very hard either -- and it's blown up into a massive thing. You are calling for a lengthy football ban because of a complete accident infused by a competitive semi-final match and a ballboy trying to gain an illegal advantage?

You should apply for a job at FA, you'd fit in perfectly.

The key difference is you actually knew who that kid was, and no, you shouldn't have been arrested and I'm not saying Hazard should have either but the kid's family will obviously sue Hazard for assault and will most likely recieve compensation of sone sort, there was no chance in hell he could have ever kicked that ball without getting a bit of the kid, and so trying to do so was idiotic and COULD have hurt the kid, even after getting the kid and seeing him roll around on the floor in "pain" he showed no remorse and that is what gets me, he didn't know for sure the kid wasn't actually hurt and yet still didn't make any move to apologize.

 

[Bobby Ray]

The key difference is you actually knew who that kid was, and no, you shouldn't have been arrested and I'm not saying Hazard should have either but the kid's family will obviously sue Hazard for assault and will most likely recieve compensation of sone sort, there was no chance in hell he could have ever kicked that ball without getting a bit of the kid, and so trying to do so was idiotic and COULD have hurt the kid, even after getting the kid and seeing him roll around on the floor in "pain" he showed no remorse and that is what gets me, he didn't know for sure the kid wasn't actually hurt and yet still didn't make any move to apologize.

Okay, a different analogy then. Multiple incidents happen weekly when I play football, incidents like fights getting initiated, it's competitive sport. No one ever says "I'm going to sue you for assault" or report them to the police, it happened on the pitch during a time of heated emotions. Ever wondered why co-national players like Ramos and Sergio Busquets have such rivalries in club encounters that heated confrontations happen, but play together fine for their national country? Do you think Messi sued Pepe or tried to get him arrested when Pepe stamped on his fingers?

Anyway, I'll break this down:

"but the kid's family will obviously sue Hazard for assault and will most likely recieve compensation of sone sort" - No they most likely won't sue, and they wouldn't receive any compensation at all, especially if Hazard issues a public apology which seems inevitable.

"there was no chance in hell he could have ever kicked that ball without getting a bit of the kid, and so trying to do so was idiotic and COULD have hurt the kid" - Yes there was a chance, it just didn't come off. I have done that same thing multiple times myself, it was a genuine attempt, but a silly one to take. Hence why he should apologise.

"even after getting the kid and seeing him roll around on the floor in "pain" he showed no remorse and that is what gets me, he didn't know for sure the kid wasn't actually hurt and yet still didn't make any move to apologize." - Urm, considering he was the one who kicked him, he knows more than anyone else (apart from the kid himself) whether he is genuinely hurt. He is laughing because he hardly touched him and knew the kid was trolling the shit out of everyone.

A lengthy ban? Fuck that.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21174252

Hazard issues apology, and the family aren't pressing charges. Being right never gets old.

 

[Crayo]

Stop being a douche Riley, lol.

Anyway, it looks like it's being dealt with internally which in my opinion is the best option. No ban needed, no media hype needed, no saga, let it fizzle out. Both of them made mistakes and both of them are fine, let's move on.

 

[Crayo]

If the kid was going on the same way he did he would have been, of course the kid isn't hurt but we can't possibly know that for definite, if a kid is rolling around on the floor in "pain" after being kicked by an adult then that is assault, also look at the fact that Hazard made absolutely no effort to apologize to the kid and instead was seen laughing about it, he deserves to be punishec imo and even if he does apologize he still dudn't realize the error of his ways at the time which you would have to be a complete imbecile not to.

"Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/assault

If it was an accident, there is no intent, thus no assault.

 

[Robbie Coletrain]

Okay, a different analogy then. Multiple incidents happen weekly when I play football, incidents like fights getting initiated, it's competitive sport. No one ever says "I'm going to sue you for assault" or report them to the police, it happened on the pitch during a time of heated emotions. Ever wondered why co-national players like Ramos and Sergio Busquets have such rivalries in club encounters that heated confrontations happen, but play together fine for their national country? Do you think Messi sued Pepe or tried to get him arrested when Pepe stamped on his fingers?

Anyway, I'll break this down:

"but the kid's family will obviously sue Hazard for assault and will most likely recieve compensation of sone sort" - No they most likely won't sue, and they wouldn't receive any compensation at all, especially if Hazard issues a public apology which seems inevitable.

"there was no chance in hell he could have ever kicked that ball without getting a bit of the kid, and so trying to do so was idiotic and COULD have hurt the kid" - Yes there was a chance, it just didn't come off. I have done that same thing multiple times myself, it was a genuine attempt, but a silly one to take. Hence why he should apologise.

"even after getting the kid and seeing him roll around on the floor in "pain" he showed no remorse and that is what gets me, he didn't know for sure the kid wasn't actually hurt and yet still didn't make any move to apologize." - Urm, considering he was the one who kicked him, he knows more than anyone else (apart from the kid himself) whether he is genuinely hurt. He is laughing because he hardly touched him and knew the kid was trolling the shit out of everyone.

A lengthy ban? f*ck that.

I know, and it doesn't bother me when there is trouble between the players who have either signed a contract to be a part of the game or signed for the club to do the same, the kid was just a ball boy, he would have had nothing to do with it if Hazard hadn't kicked him. I've seen tons of ball boys every week taking their time to give the ball back but that is different because this time a player reacted?

They would be silly not to ask for some form of compensation as once again there is no proof that the kid wasn't actually hurt so nobody could say they were wrong.

How was there a chance? The lad was lying on top of the ball, whether it was his shin pad or his boot he would have connected with him in some sort, if he had just bent down and grabbed the ball off of him I wouldn't have cared in the slightest, it's the fact that he kicked a kid on the ground hoping to get a touch of the ball.

Even if he kicked the kid that doesn't mean he instantly knows he isn't in pain, I have made many a bad tackle playing footy which resulted in the other player rolling around on the floor, I might have thought it wasn't bad enough to hurt but there is no way I can say for certain it didn't, if he said it hurt I couldn't just say no it didn't and know in my head that I am definitely right. He's laughing because he doesn't THINK he hurt the lad but like I said there is no way he could have possibly been able to tell so why wouldn't he just apologize there and then?

 

[Robbie Coletrain]

"Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim."

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/assault

If it was an accident, there is no intent, thus no assault.

But like I said the chances of him not getting a bit of the kid were VERY small and so he thought it better to kick a kid than to just bend down and grab the ball, we don't know for sure he didn't try to even get the slightest touch of the kid.

 

[Jonathan]

Although the whole thing is absurd and Hazard is completely in the wrong in trying to force the ball from a ballboy, he is also to blame.

He obviously planned this in advance..

 

[Bobby Ray]

Lol what a boss.

 

[Senhor Perfect]

Leg drop would've kept him down brother :hogan:

 

[Crayo]

Leg drop would've kept him down brother :hogan:

I can't believe it took 5 pages for someone to crack a wrestling joke, I'm disappointed in you guys (.

 

[Senhor Perfect]

It's gotten so serious on here since I left work, you guys need to take it easy. Every thread I've opened it's been people bickering, lol.

 

[Bobby Ray]

It's gotten so serious on here since I left work, you guys need to take it easy. Every thread I've opened it's been people bickering, lol.

Probably my bad. I'm a lil' drunk.