Ghosts and the Unexplained

[Kizza]

I don't understand totally what you're saying, but are you suggesting that people become religious through brainwashing? Because I reject that view categorically.

 

[Quintastic One]

I think what he means is that through religious practices people become "brainwashed" into believing in the super natural, therefore the religious are far more likely to agree with the existence of ghosts rather than someone who is agnostic or atheist.

 

[adhyanta]

He' right.
That's what I meant.
Thanks, Knox.

This is why I warned people about my English in The Entrance Ramp.

(sigh)

 

[Kizza]

The English is fine, just the context it was in I didn't quite understand. That does make sense though.

 

[KenFan4life]

Nah, I saw that Paranormal Activity film, so no...ghosts don't exist.

I mean, if like....nah, just no.

If a random dude dying in some other dude's basement can somehow make an entire house haunted, then why isn't the whole 9/11 area haunted by ghosts or pearl harbor or a battlefield from like world war 1?

Why is it that only creepy castles are supposedly haunted, yet a place like Porn-O land ain't haunted....strippers die too ya' know!

 

[Quintastic One]

I'm going to nod my head and agree as I walk away veerrry slowly.

 

[adhyanta]

Nah, I saw that Paranormal Activity film, so no...ghosts don't exist.

I mean, if like....nah, just no.

If a random dude dying in some other dude's basement can somehow make an entire house haunted, then why isn't the whole 9/11 area haunted by ghosts or pearl harbor or a battlefield from like world war 1?

Why is it that only creepy castles are supposedly haunted, yet a place like Porn-O land ain't haunted....strippers die too ya' know!

I respect the logic you used, because it's the same logic I subscribed when I used to not believe in them. As I'd said before.. I do believe in them, now - not out of fancy, but because of something I experienced personally many years ago, that left me baffled and the easiest explanation for that (that I can find).. is that ghost really exist.

Still, like I said.. I used to share your logic. But if there's something I definitely learn is that logical explanation is at constant battle with what people feel instinctively when dealing with things of belief. Many people felt a significant amount of fear, or awe instinctively.. toward the idea of spirits rising from the dead. In fact, many fear ghost more than death. Since they can't rid themselves such powerful fear, no matter how unreasonable that fear was, they then believe it must be undoubtedly real. People have been scared of ghosts long before before the concept of paranoia was introduced.
That's why I think the logic you stated as base for you to not believe in ghost, is by far the more intelligent and sensible, than the logic that was used by so many people as the reason why they believe in ghost.

I still believe in ghost though.. because I don't think belief should determine the truth. In the case of ghost, whichever conclusion the truth may side with.. is perfectly sensible to me.

You're saying that it's nonsense.. because not all place where a violent death is haunted. In fact the places that notoriously reputed as being haunted, doesn't have the tragedy or the violence that resulted in death as bad as many places that has never been repoted to be haunted.

I disagree.

I don't think, just 'cos every place that people claimed as haunted.. have a history of horrible deaths.. then, unless every place with similar or even worse tragedies are haunted... it's sensible to assume that they're phony.

It means that you claim to know the standard requirement for the existence... of ghosts and their appearances, when you don't believe them to be real. How?

 

[LKP]

There are ghosts around us and out there. I just do not get that people believe in god yet do not believe in ghosts. At least we have proof ghost exist.

 

[Kizza]

Uhhh, what proof?

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

Erm, there is a massive difference between believing in God and ghosts. That's perhaps the most Blue statement you've ever made, and you have made a lot of Blue statements.

First of all, what substantial proof is there that ghosts exist? What, people saying they saw them? Wowzers, such proof. If we subscribe to that logic too, then God is real since people claim the bible is about him and that he's real. There is no scientific proof that God exists, no, but there is also no scientific fact that ghosts exist. you don't have "proof" either way.

Secondly, God is much more significant to ghosts. Believe it or not, God is a tangible which fulfils people's lives. It gives them something to believe in and some sort of direction to follow in life. Believing in God can have great benefits for a person, and can really add meaning to their life. Not only that, but the main principles behind the teaching of God provide good foundations for which to live your life on. Believing in ghosts, however, has no benefit. It doesn't lead anyone to fulfilment, nor does it make the world better place. To compare the two is just ... blah.

And no, I'm not a particularly religious person. Just felt as if someone had to let you know (again) that you're Blue.

 

[Kizza]

Hey man, youtube videos are proof.

God and ghosts are two different things. God is a belief. Ghosts are supernatural.

 

[LKP]

You lot are fucking idiots.....plus you say rep means nothing? Then why rep people?smurfs

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

Crying about red rep and providing no evidence to back up your previous post. Man you add a lot to this place.