General Chit-Chat Thread - No Spoilers

[Hoss]

Worker probably is that word, but I'll still say a guy like Kevin Nash who can gets crowds invested more than a guy like Dean Malenko is a better worker at the end of the day.

I suppose that's fair

 

[Deezy]

I'm mostly agreeing with you, but your contrarian nature is still funny to me. You got mad when I wasn't actually saying that only wrestlers can have opinions, but here you are actually saying that.

the fuck you talking about? I'm talking about using inside terms and describing rasslers with them as flawed because we don't know how someone performs in the ring.....having an opinion on someone isn't that

 

[Hoss]

It's incredibly arbitrary in the end

 

[Hoss]

I mean, I would usually say someone like Nash is a great professional wrestler, not the best worker. Malenko an awesome worker, not a great professional wrestler. Is there a difference in the two terms? Maybe not, but it makes sense to me.

 

[Smart Marx]

the fuck you talking about? I'm talking about using inside terms and describing rasslers with them as flawed because we don't know how someone performs in the ring.....having an opinion on someone isn't that

Because everything you just said makes no sense. I don't need to wrestle Bret hart to have an opinion on how he works. It's a performance art. I can see his art with my own two eyes. This is the must be an actor to critique a movie argument.

 

[Deezy]

Its like breaking down a movie actor by going all this guy using Classical Acting, The Chekhov Acting Technique, Method Acting.l, Meisner Acting Technique or Practical Aesthetics Acting Technique......it's all arbitrary, but does anyone who's not an actor actually know what's what?

 

[Smart Marx]

I mean, I would usually say someone like Nash is a great professional wrestler, not the best worker. Malenko an awesome worker, not a great professional wrestler. Is there a difference in the two terms? Maybe not, but it makes sense to me.

TBH if we had to use those two terms, I'd flip them. I think Nash is a better worker because the fans care more when he's on the screen. Malenko is probably a better wrestler if you are referring to his wrestling moves.

 

[Deezy]

Because everything you just said makes no sense. I don't need to wrestle Bret hart to have an opinion on how he works. It's a performance art. I can see his art with my own two eyes. This is the must be an actor to critique a movie argument.

you do know I'm just talking about the word "worker" itself right?

 

[Deezy]

Hows a person supposed to know how someone "works" if they never "worked" with them?

 

[Hoss]

TBH if we had to use those two terms, I'd flip them. I think Nash is a better worker because the fans care more when he's on the screen. Malenko is probably a better wrestler if you are referring to his wrestling moves.

Well I also feel like there's a distinction in saying this guy is great at wrestling and this guy is great at PRO wrestling. Although in the end it's all taking place in the pro wrestling realm, I think wrestling applies to what's happening in thing, while the PRO carries all the other stuff that goes into like promos, entrances, crowd interaction, basically anything that isn't the moves being done.

 

[Deezy]

pro wrestling and amateur wrestling should be happy Vince McMahon finally stopping the confusion by calling it sports entertainment

 

[Hoss]

pro wrestling and amateur wrestling should be happy Vince McMahon finally stopping the confusion by calling it sports entertainment

A pretty good point actually

 

[Hoss]

I'm not opposed to just getting rid of the phrase pro wrestling as a whole

 

[Deezy]

I second that

 

[Hoss]

If we go with the term sports entertainment as the umbrella term, we could then make the distinction... Dean Malenko was great at the sports side of it, Kevin Nash was great at the entertainment side of it. Since entertainment is the more important part of the equation, Kevin Nash was the better sports entertainer. Eh?