General Chit-Chat Thread - No Spoilers

[Canadian Dragon]

i think from an outsider perspective, probably dont care about anything else but the biggest war at that time.

 

[Bobby Barrows]

I suppose so.

 

[Chris]

I dunno, I always hear people shit on Johnson specifically for Vietnam but they don't really look at any of the good he did. It's not so cut and dry, and I feel you always have to take the good and the bad with Johnson. He also wasn't a racist like many people seem to think he was.

Well most of this is also cause people think they have to pigeon hole everyone into "good" or "bad" when most humans are a lot of both depending on your point of view. It'd be easier to just say he's a good domestic president, shit foreign policy president and not try and reconcile that into one good or bad rating

 

[CakeWalker]

all it takes is one drop of blood to taint the water

 

[Canadian Dragon]

i can certainly see those things you mentioned as good internal social policies tho

 

[Bobby Barrows]

But I feel like judging world leaders based just on wars is a bad cop and can really sorta taint how people view complex and not infallible humans.

 

[Bobby Barrows]

Well most of this is also cause people think they have to pigeon hole everyone into "good" or "bad" when most humans are a lot of both depending on your point of view. It'd be easier to just say he's a good domestic president, shit foreign policy president and not try and reconcile that into one good or bad rating

That's kinda how I view it. It's also how I view Obama, who was an excellent domestic president but a god awful foreign policy president.

 

[Canadian Dragon]

Well most of this is also cause people think they have to pigeon hole everyone into "good" or "bad" when most humans are a lot of both depending on your point of view. It'd be easier to just say he's a good domestic president, shit foreign policy president and not try and reconcile that into one good or bad rating

yeah probably a good view of things. because like you said, if you say someone is a good president as a blanket statement its not going to fly that hes also responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths

 

[Bobby Barrows]

Spoiler

Such a great speaker too.

 

[Chris]

I don't have an opinion on LBJ myself personally tho cause my history class never got that far before the school year ended

 

[Bobby Barrows]

FDR's awesome tho.

 

[Bobby Barrows]

I feel like every non-American I speak to loves FDR, and I'm with em tbh.

 

[CakeWalker]

time to sound ignorant

 

[CakeWalker]

who?

 

[Bobby Barrows]

who?

He's the President who was elected four times and was primarily responsible for recovery during the 30's and 40's.