Dolph Ziggler Continues To Push For A Match With Daniel Bryan At WrestleMania

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The story would be something like 'Let's steal the show, bro!'
Oh my bad. Since you quoted it here I'll delete that thread. No need to merge when you already got all the info.

EDIT: Seems someone already did
 

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Umm, not sure if I follow. What's the deal here, again?
Sorry, haha.

That post was actually a thread I started. I thought you quoting was a nice way of saying "this thread already exists" so I was going to go delete mine.

Turns out my thread was already merged with yours and you just quoted it from the thread. I didn't notice it until I went to delete my thread (after that last post).

That clear it up?

:dafuq:
 

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Sorry, haha.

That post was actually a thread I started. I thought you quoting was a nice way of saying "this thread already exists" so I was going to go delete mine.

Turns out my thread was already merged with yours and you just quoted it from the thread. I didn't notice it until I went to delete my thread (after that last post).

That clear it up?

:dafuq:

Yeah. All's kewl now.
 

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This seems like that 'lack of ambition' test Daniel Bryan was referring to in this interview: http://www.alternativenation.net/daniel-bryan-interview/
He's resigned himself to working the low card. It reminds me of what happened to Eddie Guerrero just one year following WM 20 when he accepted a 'friendly' match with his buddy Rey Mysterio.
Steve Austin had issues when he wasn't main eventing, which tells me he was the very definition of ambitious.
I enjoy Bryan's attitude, but it only justifies the perception from the management that he is a B+ level player.

Bryan isn't just small in stature, but he is perceived to be a hippy with a lack of capitalistic drive. I personally disagree, but that perception is magnified even more now in the eyes of management.
 

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This seems like that 'lack of ambition' test Daniel Bryan was referring to in this interview: http://www.alternativenation.net/daniel-bryan-interview/
He's resigned himself to working the low card. It reminds me of what happened to Eddie Guerrero just one year following WM 20 when he accepted a 'friendly' match with his buddy Rey Mysterio.
Steve Austin had issues when he wasn't main eventing, which tells me he was the very definition of ambitious.
I enjoy Bryan's attitude, but it only justifies the perception from the management that he is a B+ level player.

Bryan isn't just small in stature, but he is perceived to be a hippy with a lack of capitalistic drive. I personally disagree, but that perception is magnified even more now in the eyes of management.

Yeah. Screw you, WWE management. Hope yer next shite's a hedgehog.
 
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If he's really OK with not main eventing, then fine, nothing wrong with that.
But, yeah, I'm really not sure I'd dig the story behind a DB/Dolph match at this point. "damn these authority people screwing us out of our chances, let's fight each other!"
 

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Just because Bryan's resigned himself to working the midcard, that doesn't mean he likes it, but he must accept it because he can't change that situation.
 
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If you resign yourself to something, or in this case, Bryan's resigned himself to working the midcard, that doesn't mean he likes it, but he must accept it because he can't change it.
I disagree.
That is a self defeating mentality to employ.
It's the main reason Bryan tested with low ambition.
Vince sees Daniel Bryan as weak. It isn't true, but it doesn't help matters that Bryan 5'8.
The reason Vince 'says' Cena was the only person who wanted to grab the brass ring was because John Cena never accepted being mediocre.

The perception is that Bryan accepts a mediocre 'look', a mediocre fanbase and a mediocre position in the company. I don't believe this, completely, but management probably sees this.
 

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Just because Bryan's resigned himself to working the midcard, that doesn't mean he likes it, but he must accept it because he can't change that situation.
According to the rumors he asked to face him, so it must've mean't they had different plans, possibly more "Main event" caliber plans.
 

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I disagree.
That is a self defeating mentality to employ.
It's the main reason Bryan tested with low ambition.
Vince sees Daniel Bryan as weak. It isn't true, but it doesn't help matters that Bryan 5'8.
The reason Vince 'says' Cena was the only person who wanted to grab the brass ring was because John Cena never accepted being mediocre.

The perception is that Bryan accepts a mediocre 'look', a mediocre fanbase and a mediocre position in the company. I don't believe this, completely, but management probably sees this.

I don't think anybody wants to accept being mediocre, but when you have the higher-ups holding you down, there's not much you can do.

Umm, Bryan is not Vince's fetish, he's not the prototype of what Vince thinks the ME superstar should look like.

However, if Bryan can't change Vince's mind with his performances in the ring and such about that he is THE guy, the crowd can. Just like they did last year.
At the end of the day, Vince has the final ['Screw you, we're going my way.'] say, so if you don't like it, there's the door.

Bryan's been the hottest thing on the roster for the last 2 years, Vince keeps on brushing it off. And at the Royal Rumble, it backfired.
 

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I don't think anybody wants to accept being mediocre, but when you have the higher-ups holding you down, there's not much you can do.

Umm, Bryan is not Vince's fetish, he's not the prototype of what Vince thinks the ME superstar should look like.

However, if Bryan can't change Vince's mind with his performances in the ring and such about that he is THE guy, the crowd can. Just like they did last year.
At the end of the day, Vince has the final ['Screw you, we're going my way.'] say, so if you don't like it, there's the door.

Bryan's been the hottest thing on the roster for the last 2 years, Vince keeps on brushing it off. And at the Royal Rumble, it backfired.
The cream always rises to the top. If you are truly the best, it will show.
Vince McMahon hates change and his mind is stuck on what has worked in the past.
There's no argument in McMahon's mind: smaller wrestlers have never drawn a dime.
This is ingrained in his brain. Bryan further cements McMahon's doubts by accepting a low card match at WrestleMania. That is beta male mentality, not alpha male.
Vince likes guys to show him up, people who carry themselves like they own the world. Vince probably grew up believing men should carry themselves a certain way.

Vince has a clean cut look and wears a suit. This is the way a man should carry himself. Bryan doesn't. To Vince, Bryan isn't a business man, Bryan is a people pleaser.