Do you support Punk for leaving, or is he a baby?

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Should he be applauded?

  • Yes, it's brave.

    Votes: 25 62.5%
  • No, he's a baby.

    Votes: 15 37.5%

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Dolph'sZiggler

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If it was real - which I firmly believe it to be a work at this point - I would say he needs to suck it up and stop crying like a baby. His dreams have been realized and people would kill to feel that. Dude is a third degree douche bag. But as I said, I believe it to be a work, so you go wwe! Gohan will keep us entertained.
I don't really see the point of setting up a fake walk out by one of your most popular dudes RGHT at the most important time of the year....
 

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I think a lot of people are having a very strong reaction to it, which makes me hope it's a work, just for the lulz. Plus, the feel of it just screams storyline. That doesn't mean it is, but, as I told a FB friend the other day about this, in 2014, I assume everything's a work until it's backed up by official press releases by WWE.

If it's a real situation, I don't think he's being a baby, but I don't necessarily think of what he's doing as "brave" either. He's making a business decision that will affect his life. I don't know that I would have made the same decision, but it also wasn't mine to make. Those who liken him to a "baby" or compare him to female genitalia, that's their opinion and they're entitled to it, although I would question what their reactions would be if put in his shoes. Those who hail him for being a brave bloke standing up and saying, "To Hell with The Man!", I would question what their reactions would be if they were in charge and one of their employees did this to them or if one of their co-workers behaved in a similar way.

As is the case with a lot of issues, I don't know that either a or b is the right answer, but that it's somewhere quite in-between.

wk
 

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I don't really see the point of setting up a fake walk out by one of your most popular dudes RGHT at the most important time of the year....
It is simple, he is injured. Instead of saying oh it's just an injury, lets screw with people's minds.
 
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It is simple, he is injured. Instead of saying oh it's just an injury, lets screw with people's minds.

Even if he's not injured (or if it's just a minor one), this gets him off of TV and gets people asking what happened to him. It stirs things up and creates tension.

If he then returns and blames it on HHH "holding him down" or something along those lines, it furthers the story between his anti-Authority figure and the Authority. For a fictional presentation that tries to be so realistic, it creates a sense of realism for us, as fans, to not really understand whether or not it's real. Basically, if it's a work, it has the potential to be a genius move. If it's a shoot,....oh, well.

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It is simple, he is injured. Instead of saying oh it's just an injury, lets screw with people's minds.
He's been injured. Again, wrong time for this of it were a 'work'

If Punk were hurt he still has value to WWE as a speaker. Hell his mic segments are always more of a draw than his shitty matches are.
 

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Even if he's not injured (or if it's just a minor one), this gets him off of TV and gets people asking what happened to him. It stirs things up and creates tension.

If he then returns and blames it on HHH "holding him down" or something along those lines, it furthers the story between his anti-Authority figure and the Authority. For a fictional presentation that tries to be so realistic, it creates a sense of realism for us, as fans, to not really understand whether or not it's real. Basically, if it's a work, it has the potential to be a genius move. If it's a shoot,....oh, well.

wk
smarks think too highly of themselves. If it were a work you don't think they would have talked about him on Raw? WWE isn't going to leave the majority of its fans in the dark just to 'work 'smart' marks
 
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Even if he's not injured (or if it's just a minor one), this gets him off of TV and gets people asking what happened to him. It stirs things up and creates tension.

If he then returns and blames it on HHH "holding him down" or something along those lines, it furthers the story between his anti-Authority figure and the Authority. For a fictional presentation that tries to be so realistic, it creates a sense of realism for us, as fans, to not really understand whether or not it's real. Basically, if it's a work, it has the potential to be a genius move. If it's a shoot,....oh, well.

wk

Nothing like a good old fashion mind *insert swear word here* :lol1:
I am all for it. I just hope it helps improve his character.
 

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He's been injured. Again, wrong time for this of it were a 'work'

If Punk were hurt he still has value to WWE as a speaker. Hell his mic segments are always more of a draw than his shitty matches are.
i don't know dolphy, feels like a work to me.
 

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i don't know dolphy, feels like a work to me.
Again, if it weren't a genuine situation WWE were trying to resolve behind the scenes and it were a work it would have been addressed on screen.
 

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smarks think too highly of themselves. If it were a work you don't think they would have talked about him on Raw? WWE isn't going to leave the majority of its fans in the dark just to 'work 'smart' marks

This isn't a "smark vs. non-smark" issue. The facts:

1) WWE produces fictional storylines and the performers are characters, much like actors playing roles on a "regular" television show.
2) Unlike above-referenced actors, WWE "Superstars" are expected to play their roles basically 24/7. Their FB pages are run by WWE and most of them send tweets in-character.
3) As more and more fans have discovered this (and have "discovered" dirtsheets and other "insider" resources that are widely available online), they pay attention to "backstage news". Witness, for example, the incident with AJ Lee and the reporter from Tribute to the Troops. The story, even on mainstream sources, quickly went from the "confrontation" between the two to the reaction of AJ Lee's boyfriend (CM Punk).
4) WWE isn't necessarily leaving anyone in the dark. They haven't talked about it on television, which actually supports Brit's suggestion that he's hurt and can't work and this has caused them to modify recent plans, but they're letting the rumor mills work overtime because they realize how good the buzz is for the characters involved.

I'm not saying it's definitely a work. I have no idea. I'm just saying that it seems a little convenient for it to go down as it reportedly has considering what they've been doing with Punk's character of late. If it is a work, I think it's a good one so far, because it's already generating a ton of discussion and speculation and they haven't had to do/say anything yet. But, I also recognize it could be a real situation and, if it is, then it is. Either way, if WWE hasn't learned some pretty interesting truths about the power of rumor mills, "insider sources", etc., and how they could be used to fuel the realism aspect of their product, then they're blind.

wk
 

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Again, if it weren't a genuine situation WWE were trying to resolve behind the scenes and it were a work it would have been addressed on screen.
You never know... Hell lets say it is (real), and dude comes back and makes it out to be a work. I think a lot of people would be impressed by it.
 
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You never know... Hell lets say it is (real), and dude comes back and makes it out to be a work. I think a lot of people would be impressed by it.
Yea, real impressive, instead of being a genuine irl pussy he just painted his character out to be a kayfabe douchebag. either way if he comes back it sucks. the only way for this to be a win is it he genuinely stays the fuck out
 

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I understand his reasoning, but leaving just because you're not getting your way is a bit babyish. The dude main evented countless PPVs and got the chance to face the Undertaker at Wrestlemania. He held the WWE Title longer than anyone in the last decade, there's no need for him to pussy out now after all WWE has given him.
 

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Yea, real impressive, instead of being a genuine irl pussy he just painted his character out to be a kayfabe douchebag. either way if he comes back it sucks. the only way for this to be a win is it he genuinely stays the fuck out

He already is a irl douche so what difference does it make? :pity:
May as well act the part in the ring. And I either want him to completely revamp himself or yes, retire. I am bored with him.
 

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This isn't a "smark vs. non-smark" issue. The facts:

1) WWE produces fictional storylines and the performers are characters, much like actors playing roles on a "regular" television show.
2) Unlike above-referenced actors, WWE "Superstars" are expected to play their roles basically 24/7. Their FB pages are run by WWE and most of them send tweets in-character.
3) As more and more fans have discovered this (and have "discovered" dirtsheets and other "insider" resources that are widely available online), they pay attention to "backstage news". Witness, for example, the incident with AJ Lee and the reporter from Tribute to the Troops. The story, even on mainstream sources, quickly went from the "confrontation" between the two to the reaction of AJ Lee's boyfriend (CM Punk).
4) WWE isn't necessarily leaving anyone in the dark. They haven't talked about it on television, which actually supports Brit's suggestion that he's hurt and can't work and this has caused them to modify recent plans, but they're letting the rumor mills work overtime because they realize how good the buzz is for the characters involved.

I'm not saying it's definitely a work. I have no idea. I'm just saying that it seems a little convenient for it to go down as it reportedly has considering what they've been doing with Punk's character of late. If it is a work, I think it's a good one so far, because it's already generating a ton of discussion and speculation and they haven't had to do/say anything yet. But, I also recognize it could be a real situation and, if it is, then it is. Either way, if WWE hasn't learned some pretty interesting truths about the power of rumor mills, "insider sources", etc., and how they could be used to fuel the realism aspect of their product, then they're blind.

wk
it is a smark vs mark issue. The better way to sell the angle (if it were a work) to smarks is this, do nothing on Raw. if they were selling the angle to casual viewers, they would be discussing it on air, not ignoring it. now, assuming we can agree on that, you really think WWE would go about trying to sell the angle to smarks above selling it to the casual audience?

we can argue over how much the casual fan reads dirt sheets or the like, but I also think you are exaggerating that fact. "we" that take in that type of news are the definite minority among WWE fans.
 
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