Dean Ambrose

[Troy]

Ryback is over, Ambrose isn't, that's why the pecking order is how it is.

Plus I'd rather watch a short power-based match than an Ambrose technical turdfest.

To be honest we don't know if Ambrose is over because he hasn't even debuted yet. It is too early to tell if he will get over or not since we haven't even seen what gimmick he will use on the main roster if/when he debuts. I agree that he has been hyped a lot but people are going to talk about someone that has worked dark shows for an entire year as normally that means they are close to debuting. It may also mean that he hasn't proven himself to be good enough in WWE's eyes to make that final step. I am looking forward to seeing him on the main roster, if he is given the chance, because I enjoy seeing pretty much all new characters. WWE need a constant influx of new talent to keep things interesting and it has been sometime since we have seen a debut plus the midcards on both shows are struggling so now seems the perfect time to debut Ambrose and one or two others.

 

[Big Red Jericho Punk]

Power based over technical turd fest? This is why you are considered a joke when you post.

 

[The Cork]

Power based over technical turd fest? This is why you are considered a joke when you post.

Take a second to think why Goldberg was a main eventer in WCW while Eddie/Jericho/Rey were curtain jerkers.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

WCW would have lasted longer if they took more chances on those kind of talents when Goldberg was rising. Clearly WWE has proved they can last longer in the main event in a relevant sense.

 

[TKK]

Take a second to think why Goldberg was a main eventer in WCW while Eddie/Jericho/Rey were curtain jerkers.

Take a second to think why WCW is out of business.

 

[Rated R Superstar]

Take a second to think why Goldberg was a main eventer in WCW while Eddie/Jericho/Rey were curtain jerkers.

3 guys who have way more talent and have headlined Wrestlemania? Yeah, WWE clearly doesn't know what they are doing getting this small guys right?

 

[PHX]

Ambrose is getting that same hype and put that man on the main roster call that Punk got back in 05 just not as big since Punk was undisputed king of the indies and probably had the greatest indy run ever in ROH alone. But regardless just seem very reminiscent which means there is a chance he has this big cult legend feel to him but to the guys in the WWE they don't feel he can live up it. So for that reason I really hope people on the net temper their expectations of how they will debut him. Was the same with Punk when people came up with all these big time ways for him to debut and this that and the other and none of that happened since it wasn't realistic. So when he finally does debut I fully expect a lot of push this guy bigger post week after week cause he is super talented but I think people should look back at 05-06 Punk and expect it to go similar just a little different.

 

[The Cork]

Take a second to think why WCW is out of business.

When Goldberg, Nash and Hogan (POWER GUYS) were on top and the cruiserweights were jobbers, WCW was the #1 US promotion while WWF were pushing smaller technical guys and dying. Lets not forget those great ratings Daniel Bryan and Punk are pulling in.....oh wait.

Point being, what I prefer doesn't make me an idiot, it puts me in the majority.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

Majority? Huh, interesting. If this was a music argument you would be an idiot. Most of the popular acts now just suck ass.

So in this case you are defending someone who sucks in the ring... It's just interesting. I don't think industries need to rely on outside sources for revenue when they have people that are committed like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk. It may not lead to big booms but as a wrestling fan I don't care about people who scarcely watches the product. Once something like this is over which considering the Goldberg thing which will only be a couple years they will need to go back to relying on their upcoming young stars who will probably most likely be smaller.

 

[The Cork]

Majority? Huh, interesting. If this was a music argument you would be an idiot. Most of the popular acts now just suck ass.

So in this case you are defending someone who sucks in the ring... It's just interesting. I don't think industries need to rely on outside sources for revenue when they have people that are committed like Daniel Bryan and CM Punk. It may not lead to big booms but as a wrestling fan I don't care about people who scarcely watches the product. Once something like this is over which considering the Goldberg thing which will only be a couple years they will need to go back to relying on their upcoming young stars who will probably most likely be smaller.

"defending someone who sucks in the ring"

There's no right or wrong, you think guys like Goldberg suck, I think guys who are below 6ft and do mat wrestling for 45mins are boring as fuck. I don't think you can dish out such rigid statements like "duh that guy sux b/c he only works two min matches and has 5 moves", you mean to tell me every match should be half hour long and have a bunch of Teddy Hart type moves otherwise you have no talent and can fuck yourself?

 

[Kiffy Lube]

You sure jumped down my throat but I guess I should have expected that. However you're counter arguement is so totally against me and not the topic at hand that I don't know how to take it seriously. I was merely defending wrestling on what will always remain. Talent that cares about their in-ring work. Goldberg was never that and Ryback will want more if they give him too much too soon. Hell Lesnar who was actually quality left because they did the same thing with him.