Cody and Brandi Rhodes leave AEW

  • Welcome to "The New" Wrestling Smarks Forum!

    I see that you are not currently registered on our forum. It only takes a second, and you can even login with your Facebook! If you would like to register now, pease click here: Register

    Once registered please introduce yourself in our introduction thread which can be found here: Introduction Board


Canadian Dragon

The Ace of WS
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
241,558
Reaction score
75,507
Points
118
Age
38
Location
Lindsay, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
9Cf16sP
Favorite Wrestler
v9xmgrN
Favorite Wrestler
f0aLDLP
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
time to derail this with Bryan Danielson learning to use twitter today
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hidden Blaze

Moon Bird

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 2, 2021
Messages
4,165
Reaction score
1,513
Points
113
Location
Florida
Website
abandonedmemories.tumblr.com
Favorite Wrestler
ArsUxsj
Favorite Wrestler
Hook1
Favorite Wrestler
ArsUxsj
Favorite Wrestler
Hook1
Favorite Wrestler
ArsUxsj
Favorite Wrestler
Hook1
I'm not a fan of Cody as a 'character'...the whole patriotic hero bs isn't for me... but I can appreciate what he's done for AEW. From the thronebreaker to the epic match with Dustin that really cemented AEWs place in the wrestling world as a legitimate alternative, all the way to his final match against Sammy which was amazing. (oh and the fire spot with Andrade. And the jumping off the cage with Wardlow...and many more I forget as I type this but will come to me later)

Whever he goes and whatever he does I'm sure he will always be welcome back to AEW whenever he wishes.

Even as a hater, I respect his talent and despite all my bitching about him in the past I'll miss him.
 

Lethal

Tiffy Time
Joined
Dec 7, 2019
Messages
18,449
Reaction score
5,240
Points
113
Location
Penrith, NSW, Australia
Favorite Wrestler
fnexxBT
Favorite Wrestler
SdPLF
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
Favorite Wrestler
romanreigns
Favorite Wrestler
stonecold2
Favorite Wrestler
trishstratus
Favorite Sports Team
lJlFfto
Favorite Sports Team
pxAmCgn
Favorite Sports Team
detroitlions
Favorite Sports Team
LMoHyDQ
Can Cody cure racism in WWE?
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Alexa

Chris

Dreams are Endless
Joined
Dec 23, 2011
Messages
378,249
Reaction score
151,952
Points
128
Age
28
Location
Texas
Favorite Wrestler
tLCb5kv
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
ArsUxsj
Favorite Wrestler
mrperfect2
Favorite Wrestler
eelOIL6
Favorite Wrestler
BryanDanielson1
Favorite Sports Team
sfa
Favorite Sports Team
dallascowboys
Favorite Sports Team
sanantoniospurs
Favorite Sports Team
texasrangers
So it seems that Cody had an option once his original 3 year contract expired, as did the Bucks and Jericho (theirs were picked up). But I wonder if that means it was a one-way company option or Cody also had the choice to opt out. If not, then that's wild bc why would Tony not pick up the option and still try and renegotiate now instead of at the end of this year unless he just thought Cody's stock was low bc of the booing :bosque
 

Canadian Dragon

The Ace of WS
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
241,558
Reaction score
75,507
Points
118
Age
38
Location
Lindsay, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
9Cf16sP
Favorite Wrestler
v9xmgrN
Favorite Wrestler
f0aLDLP
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
ill post it when im back home, but Wade Keller of PWTORCH has a great article up now
 

Deezy

DZ PZ
Joined
Nov 13, 2010
Messages
139,458
Reaction score
39,386
Points
118
Location
Canada
Favorite Wrestler
brethart2
Favorite Wrestler
newjack
Favorite Wrestler
ddp
Favorite Wrestler
therock
Favorite Wrestler
nwo
Favorite Wrestler
wolfpac
According to Wade Keller, Cody asked for a massive pay raise and wanted to be the top paid guy in the company or at least equal to the top paid guy in the company and Brandi wanted a more prominent role on TV and Tony Khan wasn't willing to come anywhere near the money Cody was asking for. Wade was saying Tony Khan has seen Cody as a liability for the last 2 years, but said Cody still drew numbers so Tony put up with him, but he won't be willing to put up with him for the amount of money Cody is asking for. Also said Brandi's recent TV segments with Lambert has been kind of a last straw with Brandi and were considered a flop from Tony. Keller also said Brandi has big heat in the locker room for ego reasons. Keller also said Cody is still well liked in the locker room, but basically stays on his personal bus at shows for the last several months and is rarely seen outside of his small friend group when he does actually come into the building.


Ahhh....the old "good riddence" tactic....I haven't seen it really used since CM Punk.

Maybe Tony Khan is finally getting it.

 

Canadian Dragon

The Ace of WS
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
241,558
Reaction score
75,507
Points
118
Age
38
Location
Lindsay, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
9Cf16sP
Favorite Wrestler
v9xmgrN
Favorite Wrestler
f0aLDLP
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
According to Wade Keller, Cody asked for a massive pay raise and wanted to be the top paid guy in the company or at least equal to the top paid guy in the company and Brandi wanted a more prominent role on TV and Tony Khan wasn't willing to come anywhere near the money Cody was asking for. Wade was saying Tony Khan has seen Cody as a liability for the last 2 years, but said Cody still drew numbers so Tony put up with him, but he won't be willing to put up with him for the amount of money Cody is asking for. Also said Brandi's recent TV segments with Lambert has been kind of a last straw with Brandi and were considered a flop from Tony. Keller also said Brandi has big heat in the locker room for ego reasons. Keller also said Cody is still well liked in the locker room, but basically stays on his personal bus at shows for the last several months and is rarely seen outside of his small friend group when he does actually come into the building.


Ahhh....the old "good riddence" tactic....I haven't seen it really used since CM Punk.

Maybe Tony Khan is finally getting it.




AEW/Cody News: Wade Keller Podcast explains alot about Cody and Brandi that is starting to make sense.​

renderTimingPixel.png

https://wrestlingnews.co/aew-news/c...son-contracts-changed-things-for-cody-in-aew/
On a recent PWTorchVIP.com audio show, Wade Keller gave some more insight on what led to Cody Rhodes and Brandi Rhodes splitting away from AEW.

Keller said, “From what I’m told, Cody asked for more money than what Tony Khan was willing to spend…”
Keller continued, “it’s weird, because if it was nine months ago…Tony might have signed him for what Cody was asking for, or at least negotiated in good faith to a reasonable compromise. But Cody became a bit of a liability, Tony publicly would say, and he told me [that] ‘Cody still drives numbers, so I’m okay.’ But that’s not the biggest compliment. It’s not like, ‘Oh, I love Cody, and we’re on the same page.’ I was just like, well, you know, the undercurrent of what he said was, ‘yeah, he’s a headache, and every segment is a car wreck, but he’s still drawing numbers. So I guess I’m okay with it for now?’ Like, that’s how I read. — I kind of read between the lines on his choice of wording. I think the segment with Brandi two weeks ago did not help, didn’t belong on TV. It was just a disaster. But there’s been a lot going on with Cody. Pre pandemic, Cody was at the forefront of production meetings and, and really involved…”

Keller talked also talked about how Brandi Rhodes was viewed backstage.

He said, “So I’ll just say this. It sounds mean but nobody has anything nice to say about Brandi Rhodes and her disposition or popularity behind the scenes and I’m not saying that with any personal satisfaction or preference for her to be liked or not liked. I’m just telling you when I talk to people, Brandi has not been seen as an asset on camera, in the ring, or behind the scenes. And so that ended up being baggage with Cody because people like Cody, pretty universally like Cody. Even people who say bad things about Cody like Cody if that makes sense.
“But Cody wanted to be a superstar, and AEW signing big money contracts, especially with Bryan Danielson and CM Punk, changed the dynamic to a degree with Cody. And I’m not saying this wouldn’t have happened if that didn’t happen. But Cody knew and Tony knew that Cody became expendable. You know, he went from a clear essential top tier guy, top four talent in the company. And you know, Cody was fine obviously with Moxley being signed, and with Jericho being signed. Jericho was a huge boon to the AEW brand at the beginning. And Moxley was a great acquisition and disgruntled with WWE and not really a threat to Cody, because he was just so different than Cody, even if they’re not too far off in age. But Danielson and Punk and then Adam Cole to a lesser extent, changed things certainly more than Malakai Black or Miro or Christian changed things. And it did give Tony a sense of ‘I have enough top guys and then young guys on the rise’ that it took some leverage away from Cody, in terms of ‘you need me pay me’ and there’s only so much salary cap room that Tony has to spread around. And he had the good fortune to have Punk and Bryan Danielson and Adam Cole become available to him, but they were expensive. The top guys in WCW had the clause in their contract that if anyone got paid more than them, their contracts would go up to match it. And they knew politically that if you’re not the top paid person, you by definition lose leverage with the boss, with the network, with your co-workers, your peers. And Cody was no longer a top paid guy. And my understanding is he wanted to be and to a degree that just wasn’t seen by Tony as what he was worth to him in the current landscape. But it’s complicated and there’s not a single factor that plays into this because Cody might have been worth it if he weren’t getting booed and he wasn’t the subject of ridicule online and in buildings and frankly, behind the scenes in various ways.”

Keller continued, “Cody has always had some issues. There’s been wrestlers who have had issues with Cody even early on. But over time, Cody pulled himself more away. Like he got a really expensive bus and was driving that only to like the Florida shows, in part done for the reality show and stuff. I mean there’s more than two sides, really to everything. But it was perceived as ‘well he got this bus and it’s really expensive and its this giant gas guzzling unnecessary luxury is sending a different message than what the wrestler founded by wrestlers for the wrestlers were supposed to send.’ And it was like, ‘Oh boy, here he goes


Keller noted how Cody has talked about how much he looks up to Triple H. Cody said the following last year during an interview with Inside The Ropes:
"So I don’t know if I should share this, but, at some point, it’s going to come off my chest: Triple H is probably my favorite wrestler and was a role model. I only watched from a distance, but he reminded me a lot of my dad in the sense that I watched him do all the work, be this executive, and then go out there—and he was only part-time for the most part other than when I first started and had that run with him and Teddy and Shawn. He really was a model in terms of, “OK, you can do both, you can do both, but you have to be really disciplined. You have to take it really seriously.” And that doesn’t get you many friends when you’re the Hermione Granger of the company, and you just take it so seriously and are just a little bookworm.”
Keller continued, “So Cody wanted to be I think more involved with being seen as sort of an equal to Tony and it became clear over time this was Tony’s company, and you know, the EVPs had their titles and The Bucks and Kenny by all accounts are happy with their role as EVPs and they have some latitude. Kenny gets to work with the women and The Bucks get to kind of do their thing with their friends and get to show off their ring style. Tony is pretty hands off and open to their ideas about certain pockets in the company that they have. But I think Cody did desire to be something more substantial. Danielson and Punk changed that dynamic a bit and I think Cody knew from experience if you’re not the top paid guy, you’re not going to get pushed like the top paid guy, you’re not gonna have the leverage that comes with that. He was as much if not more than anyone the founder of this movement of AEW and Brandi put out public statements on Twitter about this and said nice things. I have not heard that there was a big blow up or that there’s a ton of hurt feelings with Cody and Tony. But, obviously, you know, it’s business.”

Keller noted how both parties said nice things to each other and that hopefully, those statements are genuinely how they feel about each other. Click here to read Cody Rhodes’ statement about AEW and Tony Khan. Click here to read Tony Khan’s statement

Keller added, “but the bottom line is Cody was not successful with this character and was stubborn or steadfast in wanting to be portrayed a certain way. And you can see it in that statement about the community outreach aspect of it. So when you’re trying to manage Brandi’s aspirations, and you’re also wanting to be paid a certain amount, and to match or exceed others, and at the same time the crowd is rejecting the character that you’re steadfast in wanting to continue portraying, it can become a problem. Then you have WWE that is willing to pay millions to acquire a co founder and EVP of your top competitor and make some waves with that going into WrestleMania season. I’m not surprised. People were really surprised. I heard some of the EVP’s were surprised about this, because it seemed like things had gotten better with everyone after there had been some tension. But if things got better, it might have been a loveless marriage in that sense. There wasn’t fighting but there wasn’t great chemistry and collaboration

"You know, everyone just kind of had their roles. Cody, if he wasn’t on his bus, he was in his locker room. He had his people, a small group who hung out with him, and he was open to hearing ideas and giving advice when people asked, but he wasn’t out there just making himself available and getting to know everybody and shaking hands and welcoming people into the company and getting to know their story. Cody was very focused on himself and the grandioseness of what he did. He recently bought a mansion — like a big house. And, you know, people are speculating about between that and the bus and all that, does he have the issue that his dad Dusty had, which is spending money that he’s expecting to earn before he has it or putting himself in a situation where there’s financial commitments and he just needs to get paid to match that. And I don’t know enough about the money he had [or] if he paid cash for the house, and he’s totally fine…so, you know, part of what Cody was going for is I think he just kind of assumed there would be a certain level of pay raise, and he was pretty forward on TV saying ‘quite frankly, I didn’t get offered what I thought I was worth or what I thought I deserved’, especially as a co-founder of the company and if that came with any extra perks, when there’s money to be spending on Danielson and Punk and Cole and now Keith Lee.”
 

Canadian Dragon

The Ace of WS
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
241,558
Reaction score
75,507
Points
118
Age
38
Location
Lindsay, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
9Cf16sP
Favorite Wrestler
v9xmgrN
Favorite Wrestler
f0aLDLP
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
quite frankly, Cody kind of fucked Cody? Him insisting on being a face, and worse, HE PUT HIMSELF IN THE MIDCARD with that stip (a stipulation that TK DID NOT WANT btw)
 

Canadian Dragon

The Ace of WS
Joined
Dec 2, 2019
Messages
241,558
Reaction score
75,507
Points
118
Age
38
Location
Lindsay, Canada
Favorite Wrestler
9yQJpez
Favorite Wrestler
9Cf16sP
Favorite Wrestler
v9xmgrN
Favorite Wrestler
f0aLDLP
Favorite Wrestler
OEndG4L
Favorite Wrestler
nock3cf
Like if you look at those article quotes, he wants to be paid liek a top guy but makes it impossible to book him like one