You're right, there was no reasoning behind what I said in that post, so allow me just to explain a few points. First of all, while I am a conservative, I am not a Facist here, I agree that there needs to be balance. The fact is, though, that this health care bill is about as transparent as a brick wall. The media touts how it will only serve to help the millions of Americans who live without health care, but because the media is so leftist, they never quite get around to saying how it will be funded. Obviously, health care can't be free because the fact is that health care is enormously expensive. A year and a half ago a two day stay in a hospital for back surgery netted a $60,000 bill for a family friend of mine. Now, I think we can all agree that $60,000 is a lot of money for almost everyone (I hate to quote occupy Wall Street because I despise them, but shall we say that's a lot of money for probably 99.95% of the population). However, not many ever realize the full cost of those bills because they're simply a formality. Insurance (if you have private insurance) or the government (if you're on Medicare or Medicaid) determines what the doctor actually gets paid. In the end, they'd be lucky to even get 10% of that bill and you'd be unfortunate to even have to pay 2%. There are people who don't have private insurance or Medicare or Medicaid and that's who this bill is supposedly for since they certainly can't pay that $60,000 (more than a year's salary for some) and as a result won't seek medical care. As I said, though, the money HAS to come from somewhere. Doctors generally like to be paid for their work and pharmaceutical companies like to be paid for their drugs. Therefore, to pay for this health care act, taxes (on programs like Medicare and my health insurance premiums) are going up and certain tax breaks are going down. My grandfather is 83 years old and has worked his whole life. He's paid into the system for years and hell, he's even served this country in Korea and now his Medicare is going to go down in order to pay for someone else's health care (Romney might say many of those he's paying for belong to the 47% and I don't entirely disagree)? How is that right that after years of busting his ass, he now has to live with a decreased standard of health care to help pay for health care for someone who can't afford it? How is it fair that my parents and I now have to pay higher premiums as well as increased taxes on our health care to pay for health care for someone who can't afford it? Did our salary go up to offset the cost of those taxes? NO! Employers will be damned if they're gonna increase salaries to offset those costs, some of which they now have to pay because they offer health care to their full time employees. I agree, coverage shouldn't be denied because of preexisting conditions, but it burns my ass that now me and my grandfather and my parents and everyone else who has private insurance or Medicare has to pay more to pay for someone else's insurance. Let me ask: who the hell is paying for my insurance? I'll answer it for you, I AM. I pay for my insurance. Insurance isn't a right and I and everyone else who has private insurance or Medicare shouldn't have to pay for someone else to have insurance. This country wasn't built on the principle of being a welfare state, but it's turning into it and it makes me sick! These damn Democrats would turn this country into a socialist state if they could but fortunately, this was the worst they could do and you know what, it's still pretty damn awful.