Brock Lesnar says Vince McMahon is a better promoter than Dana White

[edge4ever]

Firewall is blocking you. I'll search for the log when I get home.
Or if it happens again, quote the "Ray ID" at the bottom of the page and send to me. Much easier to find it then.

Damn firewall. Lol. What kind?

 

[Solidus1]

Okay I'll find that shortly and let you know why it's happening. Likely an infected computer.

 

[edge4ever]

Okay I'll find that shortly and let you know why it's happening. Likely an infected computer.

I'm like always on my iPhone. And it only keeps happening when I try to reply to some messages and quote people.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Dana is a shit promoter who is shit for MMA. Vince wins by default, even though in 2015 he is pretty shitty himself.

 

[C.M. Shaddix]

I saw this article yesterday, my take on it is that people don't get that these "Superstars" actually do a lot to make the fake look real, which is why they should be given a lot of credit, it's dangerous still being in WWE, history shows people get hurt and even die by this. Just because it's scripted and fake doesn't mean it can still be dangerous and painful.

 

[Stopspot]

"real" fighting is easier to sell to a big group of people as opposed to a scripted fight.

WWE still outdraw the UFC, Bellator or any other MMA organization regularly so I don't see where you get that from. Not to mention that Dana's biggest draw ever was a wrestler, and his only big self made talent (Ronda) is modeling herself after wrestling.

 

[seabs]

WWE still outdraw the UFC, Bellator or any other MMA organization regularly so I don't see where you get that from. Not to mention that Dana's biggest draw ever was a wrestler, and his only big self made talent (Ronda) is modeling herself after wrestling.

Brock did bigger individual numbers but GSP is probably their biggest draw ever to be fair, especially since he was on 100 with Brock.

Also :

UFC is up by about a million ppv buys since 01 according to this, not fact checked however

 

[Stopspot]

Brock did bigger individual numbers but GSP is probably their biggest draw ever to be fair, especially since he was on 100 with Brock.

Also :

UFC is up by about a million ppv buys since 01 according to this, not fact checked however

I was talking attendance. Where I still believe that wrestling outdraws MMA. UFC 190 pulled 14k in attendance, an episode of RAW is roughly in the 12 - 15k range.

 

[seabs]

I was talking attendance. Where I still believe that wrestling outdraws MMA. UFC 190 pulled 14k in attendance, an episode of RAW is roughly in the 12 - 15k range.

Depends on the arena to be fair, the UFC is doing a 70k arena in Australia and Pride did 90k at Saitama didn't they? Has the E done a 7 million dollar gate like 189 recently ? I genuinely don't have a clue.

 

[seabs]

Turns out Mania did, should have expected that.

 

[Stopspot]

Depends on the arena to be fair, the UFC is doing a 70k arena in Australia and Pride did 90k at Saitama didn't they? Has the E done a 7 million dollar gate like 189 recently ? I genuinely don't have a clue.

Wrestlemania 31 did 76,976 in WWE's own words. And grossed 12.6 million.

Ninjaed

 

[edge4ever]

WWE still outdraw the UFC, Bellator or any other MMA organization regularly so I don't see where you get that from. Not to mention that Dana's biggest draw ever was a wrestler, and his only big self made talent (Ronda) is modeling herself after wrestling.

Isn't ufc worth more than WWE?

Also, my point with lockard is that everything is going towards more realism than ever before. Movies, games, TV shows, etc. are all trying to do this more so than not.

Brock is an exception because he was the first guy to step into the UFC, when it became much bigger, as a former WWE wrestler and known as a genetic freak. He looks like a nut case and has somewhat of a background. It's interesting. Doesn't mean WWE is better because this happened and made Dana money.

Rhonda was big before she stepped into a WWE ring and drew millions. She didn't have to step into WWE at all, but did it to maybe draw some more fans and try something new. Again, doesn't prove anything.

I'm not discrediting WWE at all, rather I feel "realism" is bigger than it ever has been. Having the "touch" of fantasy is nice but not as big.

 

[Roadster]

Brock didn't get in the UFC when it got much bigger, he made it much bigger.

 

[Stopspot]

Isn't ufc worth more than WWE?

Hard to determine. UFC is owned by a parent company (Zuffa) so their worth is going to be factored into the worth of Zuffa. WWE is its own entity which means the numbers for them are more readily available.

Also, my point with lockard is that everything is going towards more realism than ever before. Movies, games, TV shows, etc. are all trying to do this more so than not.

Because Blockbuster movies about men that shrink to the size of ants are totally legit. Yes there is an influx of realism in media, but it is minimal. The stuff that makes big money is still the spectacular.

Brock is an exception because he was the first guy to step into the UFC, when it became much bigger, as a former WWE wrestler and known as a genetic freak. He looks like a nut case and has somewhat of a background. It's interesting. Doesn't mean WWE is better because this happened and made Dana money.

So let's ignore all the other wrestlers turned MMA fighters or MMA fighters turned wrestlers before Brock then. Antonio Inoki made a career out of doing rigged MMA fights before Brock was even planned, New Japan is built by Inoki fighting guys like Muhammed Ali. A lot of the talent in Pride were wrestlers, New Japan in the 90's and early 2000's was based on wrestlers vs fighters. Brock is not anything new to the industry.

Rhonda was big before she stepped into a WWE ring and drew millions. She didn't have to step into WWE at all, but did it to maybe draw some more fans and try something new. Again, doesn't prove anything.

You totally missed my point. I said that Ronda is a gimmick. She bloody calls herself Rowdy Ronda Rousey after Piper.

 

[edge4ever]

Brock didn't get in the UFC when it got much bigger, he made it much bigger.

No it was already, roughly, a billion dollar company at that point. Sure, he drew money but didn't make them.