Bret Hart puts over current WWE Stars

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Actually Great One, I'm pretty sure one of the first things Bret Hart thought about, considering how he used to be a worker, is how he would approach a match with them and how it would go. And oh yeah, FYI, Bret loves Goldberg. He said wrestling Goldberg was one of his only highlights in WCW. Watch his DVD and listen to his shoot interview, he says it in both places. So please don't presume you can get into the mind of anyone else just because you've seen them on TV a few times.
 

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Actually Great One, I'm pretty sure one of the first things Bret Hart thought about, considering how he used to be a worker, is how he would approach a match with them and how it would go. And oh yeah, FYI, Bret loves Goldberg. He said wrestling Goldberg was one of his only highlights in WCW. Watch his DVD and listen to his shoot interview, he says it in both places. So please don't presume you can get into the mind of anyone else just because you've seen them on TV a few times.
Note how I said WCW Power Plant, which is what he blamed for that incident. And yeah, he can think that, but I have my opinion of how it would go. Just like you think you are assuming and trying to think for him like he thought like that.
 

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Im not assuming anything, I'm going on what he said. He SAID he liked Goldberg, he SAID he liked wrestling Goldberg and he SAID he holds no ill will towards him. And as far as his comments on current stars go, I have never ever heard Bret Hart compliment a wrestler whom he said he wouldn't want to get into the ring with. From Kurt Angle on down, so past experience says this, not an assumption.
 

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Hey What The Fuck!!!.......Bret Forgot to put Kennedy over in his little interview.........Man, missed another push....NOt Again!!!
 
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Batista should be heel. Batista as heel with the Ultimate Warrior type promo would be great. He would make a good heel with an animal unleashed gimmick.
 

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Im not assuming anything, I'm going on what he said. He SAID he liked Goldberg, he SAID he liked wrestling Goldberg and he SAID he holds no ill will towards him. And as far as his comments on current stars go, I have never ever heard Bret Hart compliment a wrestler whom he said he wouldn't want to get into the ring with. From Kurt Angle on down, so past experience says this, not an assumption.
Actually Great One, I'm pretty sure one of the first things Bret Hart thought about, considering how he used to be a worker, is how he would approach a match with them and how it would go.
I was talking about that and how can you even safely assume that that statement was even actually what HE meant let alone know what he meant. There's no right or wrong way to think this, stupid to argue over a manner of opinions and interpretation towards a PREDICAMENT.
 

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Why would he not MEAN what he SAYS?
 

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Yes, that's right, we can't possibly believe him because those two really are the worst wrestlers ever. Bret Hart couldn't have possibly found anything good in either of them. I got it, everything everyone says is now suspect. What CM Punk said about working with Samoa Joe in the Ironman matches, all bullshit. What Eric Bichoff and Mick Foley said in their books, all bullshit. Mick Foley couldn't possibly like to work with HHH, he had to have been bought off. In fact, I don't really believe what I am saying either, I was paid off by the WWE to say this....
 

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Has he ever wrestled with them? No. Don't give me your sarcastic, smart ass bullshit and give me complete irrelevant and different examples to comparisons. He said so and so had a lot of charisma and he has a lot of respect for them, I'm saying he may not think the same (mainly in the respect aspect) if he had actually gotten into the ring with them or been around them (for Batista's matter), but I guess that was for some reason needed to be argued. It's more than a possibility for such as I stated and kept in mind as a chance to occur to have been true.
 

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Has he ever wrestled with them? No. Don't give me your sarcastic, smart ass bullshit and give me complete irrelevant and different examples to comparisons. He said so and so had a lot of charisma and he has a lot of respect for them, I'm saying he may not think the same (mainly in the respect aspect) if he had actually gotten into the ring with them or been around them (for Batista's matter), but I guess that was for some reason needed to be argued. It's more than a possibility for such as I stated and kept in mind as a chance to occur to have been true.



Yes, you're right, he is totally lying for some reason. He would totally change his mind because YOU perceive Cena and Batista to be shitbags. I guess we should just ask YOU what Bret Hart would "really think" about everything from now on....


Tell me Great One what does Bret Hart think about the brand split? What did he think about the short lived "minis" division? And who is his favorite current WWE wrestler? I mean we COULD ask him, but since you KNOW how he is going to answer anyway, PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US ALL!!
 

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Yes, you're right, he is totally lying for some reason. He would totally change his mind because YOU perceive Cena and Batista to be shitbags. I guess we should just ask YOU what Bret Hart would "really think" about everything from now on....


Tell me Great One what does Bret Hart think about the brand split? What did he think about the short lived "minis" division? And who is his favorite current WWE wrestler? I mean we COULD ask him, but since you KNOW how he is going to answer anyway, PLEASE ENLIGHTEN US ALL!!
Yes, because when did I ever call Cena a shitbag (or either of them)? Right, never. I don't give a fuck what Bret Hart thinks, I think what I think about Bret Hart and what he would think, in other words my opinion or state of thought. Quit thinking so single minded.

I go by the things he's stated and the things I can probably assume (just like you do all the time). We know he's never faced Cena or Batista, we can assume he could easily change his mind in one or the other for many reasons which I hope I won't have to spell them out for you, but I'm assuming I probably will, since I can guess the response you will give.

Also, where does he say anywhere that he would like to wrestle those two, unlike Kurt Angle? Oh right...
 

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Yes, because when did I ever call Cena a shitbag (or either of them)? Right, never.

No, you are just stating that you think a person's opinion would change from good to bad, so you obviously LIKE them right? You may not have said "they are shitbags" but you obviously don't care for (at least) their in ring skills. That is what we call going on what has been given, not MAKING ASSUMPTIONS.

I don't give a fuck what Bret Hart thinks, I think what I think about Bret Hart and what he would think, in other words my opinion or state of thought. Quit thinking so single minded.

And how can you presume to KNOW what someone thinks? Are you inside the mind of Bret Hart? No, you're not. Therefore, you have NO way to know what he would think.


I go by the things he's stated and the things I can probably assume (just like you do all the time).

You are going on what YOU think about those two. You don't like their in ring skills and therefore assume that since you have the (apparent because you believe you then have insights into other people's thoughts based on YOUR opinion of one's abilities) defining opinion on them, you can then state what OTHERS will think.



We know he's never faced Cena or Batista, we can assume he could easily change his mind in one or the other for many reasons which I hope I won't have to spell them out for you, but I'm assuming I probably will, since I can guess the response you will give.

Yes, because YOU have bad opinions of them, Bret Hart must too...


Also, where does he say anywhere that he would like to wrestle those two, unlike Kurt Angle? Oh right...
Yeah, Im sorry, Bret Hart has a proven track record of lying about people whom he finds good quality in. Why would he say something GOOD about them if he couldn't see himself doing business with them?
 

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No, you are just stating that you think a person's opinion would change from good to bad, so you obviously LIKE them right? You may not have said "they are shitbags" but you obviously don't care for (at least) their in ring skills. That is what we call going on what has been given, not MAKING ASSUMPTIONS.
Nope, I never even once questioned or hinted at their in ring wrestling skills. Both main factors I was considering were both mentioned in each of my posts. Booking and attitude/respect.

And how can you presume to KNOW what someone thinks? Are you inside the mind of Bret Hart? No, you're not. Therefore, you have NO way to know what he would think.
Weren't you doing the same exact thing? People form opinions and presumptions on what someone is thinking and will do ALL the time, I presume Bret Hart would change his opinion if caught deep in the situation which is a viable prediction based on previous wrestlers opinions who have worked with both, giving more than enough credibility for my argument.

You are going on what YOU think about those two. You don't like their in ring skills and therefore assume that since you have the (apparent because you believe you then have insights into other people's thoughts based on YOUR opinion of one's abilities) defining opinion on them, you can then state what OTHERS will think.
Once again, I never once said I don't like their in ring skills, there's an assumption. This is what we like to call a predicament, and my sources hold just as much reliability as your's (not very much), which I mentioned above.

Yes, because YOU have bad opinions of them, Bret Hart must too...
I don't have bad opinions on both of them as a whole. I have bad opinions on some factors which I certainly know could contribute to shifting Bret Hart's opinion if caught in the situation, which yes, I assume (based on some fact).


Yeah, Im sorry, Bret Hart has a proven track record of lying about people whom he finds good quality in. Why would he say something GOOD about them if he couldn't see himself doing business with them?
Didn't we already go over this? Bret Hart isn't God, I am sorry. He complimented them on certain aspects, so what? I highly doubt he would come out and say, "I would never work with these two they suck". Bad publicity and then again the money aspect could come into play. Of course I hardly even believe any of those possibilities, but they're there and that is what your questioning continues to ask, as if it isn't a possibility. Once again, if he would want to work with them so bad, why wouldn't he just come out and say it like he did Kurt Angle?