Well unless you are currently training to be a pro wrestler, I doubt any of those three guys have any influence on your real life whatsoever. Unless your a crazy old fuck, in that case Terry Funk would be a huge influence lol.
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straight_edge76
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Mister J is just a smarky ass old school wrestling snob who seems to not be able to accept the fact that wrestlers from 1998 and beyond have had just as much, if not more of an impact than guys like Hogan. I honestly believe that what Austin did for the WWF in the 90's is much more impressive than what Hogan did in the 80's. When Austin first rose to become the Austin that we all know the WWF was on the verge of going out of buisness if I am not mistaken. He saved the company. Did Hogan ever do that?
MizMasta3000
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straight_edge76
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Exactly, and Austin never did. So, to the WWE audience he will always belong to them in a sense wheras Hogan to the die-hard WWE marks (or some of them) he is looked at as a traitor. I honestly see Hogan hurting TNA more than helping atm.
Austin did turn his back on WWE once back in 02/03 but I don't think turning your back on a the company really matters when you look at the overall career of somebody. The character we see in the ring is usually a lot different than that of the real person.
straight_edge76
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I don't think it was so much "turning your back on them" as much as where you are at now. Austin is in imo a better position with the hardcore WWE fanbase than Hogan atm.
LadyHotrod
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I actually have to slightly disagree.
Hogan will always be bigger than Austin. Austin may have helped the WWF when they were on the verge of destruction but Hogan made the WWF. He put it on the map. Without Hogan helping with the wrestling boom, guys like Austin wouldn't be here.
MizMasta3000
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Austin kept WWF on the map. In the time of old WWF guys jumping ship to WCW and the Monday Night Wars starting. Who helped WWF overcome and eventually defeat WCW? The Rock and Austin. Austin more so in the late 90s
The Rated R CMStar
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Why are you people even arguing about this? You people are talking based out on opinions, neither of you are bringing actual facts or truthful information into this to make an actual case of who is the biggest name ever in wrestling, Stone Cold or Hulk Hogan.
Bottom line is, the people who do have the facts, the info, WWE and The Mcmahons, they have said time and time again Stone Cold is their biggest name ever. They have said it to the wrestling world in times when they weren't mad at Hogan (they were even thinking of having Hogan wrestle at Mania 25 yet they said Stone Cold was the biggest name), they told it to people who don't know squat about wrestling like The Congress. Bottomline is, the people who do know, are telling us Stone Cold is the biggest name.
Besides, Hulk Hogan has whored his persona and character so much it has lost way too much luster. Stone Cold, despite all of his random appearances, unless it happens at Cyber Sunday, always generates interest. The build up for the confrontation against freaking Santino Marella was praised as fuck and everybody was expecting it. His Mania 25 appearance was awesome and we haven't seen him for an entire year.
Bottom line is, the people who do have the facts, the info, WWE and The Mcmahons, they have said time and time again Stone Cold is their biggest name ever. They have said it to the wrestling world in times when they weren't mad at Hogan (they were even thinking of having Hogan wrestle at Mania 25 yet they said Stone Cold was the biggest name), they told it to people who don't know squat about wrestling like The Congress. Bottomline is, the people who do know, are telling us Stone Cold is the biggest name.
Besides, Hulk Hogan has whored his persona and character so much it has lost way too much luster. Stone Cold, despite all of his random appearances, unless it happens at Cyber Sunday, always generates interest. The build up for the confrontation against freaking Santino Marella was praised as fuck and everybody was expecting it. His Mania 25 appearance was awesome and we haven't seen him for an entire year.
Lol Mister J it seems to me that your just attempting to piss others off for your own personal amuesment. I enjoy a good laugh as much as the next guy but how bout you take it to Hell in a Thread and let us have a real wrestling conversation.
Airfixx
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A tired argument resurrected for the Nth time, but....
If it was not for Hogan there wouldn't have been a W(ORLD)WE for Austin to "save"...
In terms of unfluence that says all you need to know.
Furthermore, if it wasn't for the success of the Hogan era, WWE (or TNA or WCW or whoever) wouldn't have been able to say "Broadcasting live accross the globe to ['x' amount of] countries".
Hogan made US pro-wrestling a global phenomenon.
Biggest/most succesful doesn't equate to most influential. ---->>>
If it was not for Hogan there wouldn't have been a W(ORLD)WE for Austin to "save"...
In terms of unfluence that says all you need to know.
Furthermore, if it wasn't for the success of the Hogan era, WWE (or TNA or WCW or whoever) wouldn't have been able to say "Broadcasting live accross the globe to ['x' amount of] countries".
Hogan made US pro-wrestling a global phenomenon.
Biggest/most succesful doesn't equate to most influential. ---->>>
The truth is Ric Flair is the most influential person in pro wrestling.
Steve Austin - influenced by Ric Flair (wanted Flair to induct him in HOF)
Hulk Hogan - called Flair the best wrestler of all time
Triple H - influenced by Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels - influenced by Ric Flair
The Rock - influenced by Ric Flair (He even has a pic of him and Flair when he was younger.)
Steve Austin - influenced by Ric Flair (wanted Flair to induct him in HOF)
Hulk Hogan - called Flair the best wrestler of all time
Triple H - influenced by Ric Flair
Shawn Michaels - influenced by Ric Flair
The Rock - influenced by Ric Flair (He even has a pic of him and Flair when he was younger.)
I think after a year long absence of not seeing them anywhere, it would be hard to figure who would get more pops, Austin or Hogan.
I think it depends on the audience.
Hogan will ALWAYS get pops in the wrestling business, it doesn't matter how long it's been, if he comes out in black and white or red and yellow. Ten years from now, will Austin get the same?