Best wrestlers in WWE?

[Crayo]

Liked. What a great post .

 

[JeebaK]

Kane & HHH better wrestlers than Jericho?

Big Show better wrestlers than Kidd, Barretta, Sin Cara, Rey Mysterio, ADR?

Ugh.

if according to you being a better wrestler only means having more in ring skills, then no.
But this si wrestling entertainment, none of these guys are actually great "Wrestlers" themselves, so my list is based on being a better "wwe wrestlers", which not only depends on ring skills but also how succesfull the person's gimmick is, mic skills, charisma, experience, etc etc.
Im sure wwe didnt hire wrestlers like Big show and Henry to do Hurricenrana from the top rope, did they?

Removed the last bit to avoid a flame war further down the line. - seabs

 

[seabs]

if according to you being a better wrestler only means having more in ring skills, then no.
But this si wrestling entertainment, none of these guys are actually great "Wrestlers" themselves, so my list is based on being a better "wwe wrestlers", which not only depends on ring skills but also how succesfull the person's gimmick is, mic skills, charisma, experience, etc etc.
Im sure wwe didnt hire wrestlers like Big show and Henry to do Hurricenrana from the top rope, did they?

Removed the last bit to avoid a flame war further down the line. - seabs

I agree completely with you here from a pro wrestling stand point however in the OP Dolph was listed so I assume it means from an in ring perspective.

 

[JeebaK]

Point of this thread was best wrestlers.

Oh and if u r talking about best "Wrestlers", im pretty sure Big show,, kane, or even HHH can knock out wrestlers like Kidd and Baretta and Sin Cara in a 1 vs 1 "Wrestling" Match.

So either way ur point can rendered invalid.

Maybe next time mention "best wwe wrestlers with in ring skills" only that way guys like kidd and sin cara can be over guys like big show. And even then HHH would be above them all, having best in ring skills doesnt mean u have to jump around the ring like sruseirweights, look at shawn micheals.

 

[seabs]

Oh and if u r talking about best "Wrestlers", im pretty sure Big show,, kane, or even HHH can knock out wrestlers like Kidd and Baretta and Sin Cara in a 1 vs 1 "Wrestling" Match.

So either way ur point can rendered invalid.

Maybe next time mention "best wwe wrestlers with in ring skills" only that way guys like kidd and sin cara can be over guys like big show. And even then HHH would be above them all, having best in ring skills doesnt mean u have to jump around the ring like sruseirweights, look at shawn micheals.

I think it means from a pro wrestling stand point, like the most entertaining matches. Neither can be wrong or right as it's an opinion.

 

[Crayo]

The thread is completely resolved around how good a professional wrestler that person is. Who's more likely to get a 5 star match, Tyson Kidd/Sin Cara or Kane/HHH?

Obviously as characters and WWE wrestlers (taking in mic work, presence etc) then you're right Kane & HHH are much better. But it's about wrestling only.

 

[JeebaK]

The thread is completely resolved around how good a professional wrestler that person is. Who's more likely to get a 5 star match, Tyson Kidd/Sin Cara or Kane/HHH?

Obviously as characters and WWE wrestlers (taking in mic work, presence etc) then you're right Kane & HHH are much better. But it's about wrestling only.

Once again, if u mean "wrestling" only then defines actual wrestling, not scripted wrestling. Hence HHH Kane and Big Show will still outclass Tyson Kidd Sin Cara anyday.

Like i said before, the only thing that can change it is if u talk about "in ring skills". But then again, does agility = in ring skills? HHH has had a few great matches in the matches against the likes of shawn micheals taker rock kurt angle etc. Do i feel Tyson kidd is even close to being the same level as any of the other guys? No. Thats why hes in WWE superstars even after being the business for more than a year. Do i believe Sin Cara is a better at ring than the other guys? Still no. Hes over hyped because hes got great agility, probably better agility than rey mysterio. But if agility meant everything guys like Sin cara and kofi kingston and r truth would have been wwe and heavy champions by now. The main thing is how to drag a match longer, when to up the tempo, when to lower the tempo, when to use cheeky shots and when to hype the crowd up etc etc, i believe sin cara tyson kidd and the other cruseirweights u named are a long way away from being good at all these aspects.

 

[Jose Tortilla]

- Dolph Ziggler
- CM Punk
- Randy Orton
- John Cena
- Chris Jericho

 

[seabs]

Once again, if u mean "wrestling" only then defines actual wrestling, not scripted wrestling. Hence HHH Kane and Big Show will still outclass Tyson Kidd Sin Cara anyday.

Like i said before, the only thing that can change it is if u talk about "in ring skills". But then again, does agility = in ring skills? HHH has had a few great matches in the matches against the likes of shawn micheals taker rock kurt angle etc. Do i feel Tyson kidd is even close to being the same level as any of the other guys? No. Thats why hes in WWE superstars even after being the business for more than a year. Do i believe Sin Cara is a better at ring than the other guys? Still no. Hes over hyped because hes got great agility, probably better agility than rey mysterio. But if agility meant everything guys like Sin cara and kofi kingston and r truth would have been wwe and heavy champions by now. The main thing is how to drag a match longer, when to up the tempo, when to lower the tempo, when to use cheeky shots and when to hype the crowd up etc etc, i believe sin cara tyson kidd and the other cruseirweights u named are a long way away from being good at all these aspects.

Tyson Kidd will kill any of the guys mentioned. The Hart dungeon was famous for being one of the most brutal training places in the world.

 

[Snowman1]

No love for Rey Mysterio? (inb4igetflamedagain) His moveset's pretty ridiculous, but usually when he's on a PPV card you can bank on his match to deliver. Him, Rhodes, Christian, and Ziggler are the only guys like that on the roster right now (in any order)

Love the respect for Cena's wrestling ability... the guy has the ability to be one of the great ones.

But who'd be the best of all time? (No, guys, it's not Daniel Bryan) So many people mention Angle, but is he better than HBK or Bret Hart?

 

[seabs]

No love for Rey Mysterio? (inb4igetflamedagain) His moveset's pretty ridiculous, but usually when he's on a PPV card you can bank on his match to deliver. Him, Rhodes, Punk, Christian, and Ziggler are the only guys like that on the roster right now (in any order)

Love the respect for Cena's wrestling ability... the guy has the ability to be one of the great ones.

But who'd be the best of all time? (No, guys, it's not Daniel Bryan) So many people mention Angle, but is he better than HBK or Bret Hart?

Best of all time? Bryan Danielson Seriously though if we're talking the best from an in ring standpoint then Ricky Steamboat has to be up there, as would Bryan you can't discredit the amount of great matches he's had pre WWE. There is no way Kurt can be the best ever sure he was crisp but he lacks basic psychology. Shawn had better entertainment value but Bret was better as in ring technician. Rey is great, so good shout there.

 

[JeebaK]

Tyson Kidd will kill any of the guys mentioned. The Hart dungeon was famous for being one of the most brutal training places in the world.

As far as i know thats just a rumour. And training at a brutal training place doesnt make u a brutal wrestler. Look at his build and Kane and HHH's build.

And dont forget Kane used to be the strongest wrestler in the WWE when he first arrived, he used to bench 650 lbs, more than any other wrestler.

 

[seabs]

As far as i know thats just a rumour. And training at a brutal training place doesnt make u a brutal wrestler. Look at his build and Kane and HHH's build.

And dont forget Kane used to be the strongest wrestler in the WWE when he first arrived, he used to bench 650 lbs, more than any other wrestler.

So strength has the ability to determine fighting ability does it? Read Jericho's book he talks about how difficult training was there. They trained in legit shoot holds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_House_(Alberta)#The_Dungeon

http://www.ugo.com/sports/chris-jericho-moments

Then again you'll probably claim you're "trolling" again.

 

[JeebaK]

So strength has the ability to determine fighting ability does it? Read Jericho's book he talks about how difficult training was there. They trained in legit shoot holds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_House_(Alberta)#The_Dungeon

http://www.ugo.com/sports/chris-jericho-moments

Then again you'll probably claim you're "trolling" again.

Wait, u are forgetting we arent talking about scripted PG wrestling where Rey Mysterio gets to beat JBL.
In real life Strength matters a LOT, especially when theeres a big build difference, we are talking about a no rules brawl, not scripted wwe or ufc with a dozen rules. One hard punch from someone like big show is enough to knock out guys like Jericho, While it would take Jericho several punches to actually hurt or even bother big show. Same goes for Tyson kidd and kane/ hhh, kane/ hhh would knock out Kidd just because of their sheer mass and strentgh.

 

[seabs]

Wait, u are forgetting we arent talking about scripted PG wrestling where Rey Mysterio gets to beat JBL.
In real life Strength matters a LOT, especially when theeres a big build difference, we are talking about a no rules brawl, not scripted wwe or ufc with a dozen rules. One hard punch from someone like big show is enough to knock out guys like Jericho, While it would take Jericho several punches to actually hurt or even bother big show. Same goes for Tyson kidd and kane/ hhh, kane/ hhh would knock out Kidd just because of their sheer mass and strentgh.

Why did Booker take down Batista in a backstage shoot fight then? Or Jericho with Goldberg?

[align=LEFT]Numerous people tried to talk them out of it, particularly Rey Mysterio, yet despite their ages and Batista’s vulnerability due to his surgery, they still wanted to fight. They went into the empty room and, according to Booker, he was sucker-punched as he closed the door. After about 30 seconds, the door was opened and people saw Booker had pinned down Batista and was pounding away on him. They dragged him off but Batista was screaming to let it continue and they did. Again, Booker got the upper hand, despite Batista pulling on his braids. Finally, as it was pulled apart by Angle, JBL, Finlay and others, Batista landed a good punch that led to Booker’s swollen eye.[/align]
http://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2006/05/31/48878/

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http://www.wrestleview.com/news/1049910170.shtml

Technique > strength.
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