OOC WWE 2K17 League Requests And Suggestions

[Geek773]

I'm always going to have people disagreeing with some of my decisions and I think this will be one of them.

I need to make decisions based on what I think is the best direction for the league.

You don't have to make decisions that aren't what the league wants for the sake of being a "powerful GM". I get that if we poll we can't poll people who haven't signed up yet but this ^ argument is a hollow one.

What if say Buster Gates signs up and someone is using his neck breaker? Buster is perfect for that move but someone got there before him.....Why should I say no to Yellow for wanting to use that move?

Using this very unlikely example, there are a million other moves in the game that have a nice taunt with them and there's nothing about a Hangman's Neckbreaker specifically that makes Buster so perfect for that and not any other move. To answer the "What if" directly, he can ask the owner of the move if he can use it too or if they would drop it to use a second finisher (that they might have also nominated). If they really don't want to, he can find another move. That's a lesser evil than having a finisher and having no control over someone else come in and use it without asking you, and without you having grounds to object. It's easy for you to say because you've only been on the other side, but if we got a new signup today who took that Shiranui could you honestly say that you wouldn't have preferred for them to ask you first, or consider any of the hundreds of unused finishers?

really would make it harder for new people

They can just ask if the other person would be OK with them using the finisher. Why haven't you responded to say why that wouldn't work yet? And it's easy to say we don't want to alienate newcomers until thirty guys turn up wanting the superkick, piledriver, pop up powerbomb or curbstomp (to use two of @Gambino's examples) - and those are the specific moves that a significant portion of signups, especially new signups, want. This rule helps promote creative finishers, and with that creative characters.

be completely blown away with the amount of finishers that are already taken.

They could just ask! If there are 20 moves taken that's nothing compared to the moves there are, and at least one of those 20 wouldn't mind that much and would be willing to share or change.


To conclude, introducing this rule would be highly beneficial and considerate to current league members and prevent a lot of irritation about stolen finishers, and would promote creative new finishers from new signups. If anyone's going to be butthurt about not getting "their" one move, or stubborn enough to believe that no "good" ones remain, enough so that they don't join the league... do we need them in the league?

I shotgun the Styles Clash. @The Anarchist reserves his Firemans Carry Roundhouse Kick.

If this were to happen in this section it would get a new thread. Chill your beans.

 

[Impactsona]

Well there goes using the Curb Stomp.

 

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"You don't have to make decisions that aren't what the league wants for the sake of being a "powerful GM". I get that if we poll we can't poll people who haven't signed up yet but this ^ argument is a hollow one."

That isn't hollow whatsoever. I don't care if people think I'm a powerful GM or not.....You should know that after me posting 5 polls to let everyone else decide what they want in their league.

"Using this very unlikely example, there are a million other moves in the game that have a nice taunt with them and there's nothing about a Hangman's Neckbreaker specifically that makes Buster so perfect for that and not any other move. To answer the "What if" directly, he can ask the owner of the move if he can use it too or if they would drop it to use a second finisher (that they might have also nominated). If they really don't want to, he can find another move. That's a lesser evil than having a finisher and having no control over someone else come in and use it without asking you, and without you having grounds to object. It's easy for you to say because you've only been on the other side, but if we got a new signup today who took that Shiranui could you honestly say that you wouldn't have preferred for them to ask you first, or consider any of the hundreds of unused finishers?"

Buster Gates has been using that move for years and I strongly believe that's his move at this point. Again why should I say go ask him since he got there first? Chances are he would say no anyway so why should I bring that rule in? Isn't it a lot easier to just pick your damn moves and not post about it? Why do people really want to limit what they can use? The game will get boring and people will want to use new stuff and half of it will be picked off.

"They can just ask if the other person would be OK with them using the finisher. Why haven't you responded to say why that wouldn't work yet? And it's easy to say we don't want to alienate newcomers until thirty guys turn up wanting the superkick, piledriver, pop up powerbomb or curbstomp (to use two of @Gambino's examples) - and those are the specific moves that a significant portion of signups, especially new signups, want. This rule helps promote creative finishers, and with that creative characters."

The whole fucking thing would be pointless dude. What's the point with having people to PM you or someone else asking if they can use the move? Why not let them pick it in-game and be happy with their moves? This is a game people want to have fun with and taking away their ability to pick their own finishers is just unfair and not needed.


"They could just ask! If there are 20 moves taken that's nothing compared to the moves there are, and at least one of those 20 wouldn't mind that much and would be willing to share or change."

Again what's the point then? Why not let them pick their own moves without asking someone else? This is really unnecessary considering most people would just say yes anyway.

"To conclude, introducing this rule would be highly beneficial and considerate to current league members and prevent a lot of irritation about stolen finishers, and would promote creative new finishers from new signups. If anyone's going to be butthurt about not getting "their" one move, or stubborn enough to believe that no "good" ones remain, enough so that they don't join the league... do we need them in the league?"

It isn't a big deal if you see someone using your finisher.....You're known for that finisher so why do people care if they see someone else using it? Everyone is welcome to the league and I'm not going to refuse someone because they want a good move that's already picked.

(This rule isn't needed. Can any of you really say that you were so pissed about seeing someone using your move that you wanted to PM me about it? This rule is highly unnecessary and I strongly believe that people should have the right to pick their finisher and not have limits to that. It's a new game and a new league.....Let people enjoy their CAWs for what they made. Don't have some random person come in a few months time and have nothing that he wants to use. @TheKingSonic made a good point saying he had to use the STF and I'm going to guess that's because the other finishers he wanted was used. Let people have the freedom to pick what they want to use.

 

[Closed]

Well there goes using the Curb Stomp.

Use what you want.

 

[Geek773]

"You don't have to make decisions that aren't what the league wants for the sake of being a "powerful GM". I get that if we poll we can't poll people who haven't signed up yet but this ^ argument is a hollow one."

That isn't hollow whatsoever. I don't care if people think I'm a powerful GM or not.....You should know that after me posting 5 polls to let everyone else decide what they want in their league.

"Using this very unlikely example, there are a million other moves in the game that have a nice taunt with them and there's nothing about a Hangman's Neckbreaker specifically that makes Buster so perfect for that and not any other move. To answer the "What if" directly, he can ask the owner of the move if he can use it too or if they would drop it to use a second finisher (that they might have also nominated). If they really don't want to, he can find another move. That's a lesser evil than having a finisher and having no control over someone else come in and use it without asking you, and without you having grounds to object. It's easy for you to say because you've only been on the other side, but if we got a new signup today who took that Shiranui could you honestly say that you wouldn't have preferred for them to ask you first, or consider any of the hundreds of unused finishers?"

Buster Gates has been using that move for years and I strongly believe that's his move at this point. Again why should I say go ask him since he got there first? Chances are he would say no anyway so why should I bring that rule in? Isn't it a lot easier to just pick your damn moves and not post about it? Why do people really want to limit what they can use? The game will get boring and people will want to use new stuff and half of it will be picked off.

"They can just ask if the other person would be OK with them using the finisher. Why haven't you responded to say why that wouldn't work yet? And it's easy to say we don't want to alienate newcomers until thirty guys turn up wanting the superkick, piledriver, pop up powerbomb or curbstomp (to use two of @Gambino's examples) - and those are the specific moves that a significant portion of signups, especially new signups, want. This rule helps promote creative finishers, and with that creative characters."

The whole fucking thing would be pointless dude. What's the point with having people to PM you or someone else asking if they can use the move? Why not let them pick it in-game and be happy with their moves? This is a game people want to have fun with and taking away their ability to pick their own finishers is just unfair and not needed.


"They could just ask! If there are 20 moves taken that's nothing compared to the moves there are, and at least one of those 20 wouldn't mind that much and would be willing to share or change."

Again what's the point then? Why not let them pick their own moves without asking someone else? This is really unnecessary considering most people would just say yes anyway.

"To conclude, introducing this rule would be highly beneficial and considerate to current league members and prevent a lot of irritation about stolen finishers, and would promote creative new finishers from new signups. If anyone's going to be butthurt about not getting "their" one move, or stubborn enough to believe that no "good" ones remain, enough so that they don't join the league... do we need them in the league?"

It isn't a big deal if you see someone using your finisher.....You're known for that finisher so why do people care if they see someone else using it? Everyone is welcome to the league and I'm not going to refuse someone because they want a good move that's already picked.

(This rule isn't needed. Can any of you really say that you were so pissed about seeing someone using your move that you wanted to PM me about it? This rule is highly unnecessary and I strongly believe that people should have the right to pick their finisher and not have limits to that. It's a new game and a new league.....Let people enjoy their CAWs for what they made. Don't have some random person come in a few months time and have nothing that he wants to use. @TheKingSonic made a good point saying he had to use the STF and I'm going to guess that's because the other finishers he wanted was used. Let people have the freedom to pick what they want to use.

If you really don't want to limit people's finishers then OK - I've laid out why I believe it's better than having newbies swan in and nick moves (there's a reason people don't have the same finishers in real promotions and that's because if someone's using a move they're allowed to be possesive of it). But I get that there's a real issue with intimidating new people or people having decided before they sign up, so fine.

Moving on though, @TheFrostyBlur do you have a decision on whether you want to ban people using others' finishers as normal grapples? I honestly don't see why anyone would ever want to do that, for the sake of kayfabe and out of respect for people who don't want to be hit with their own finisher casually in the middle of a match.

 

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If you really don't want to limit people's finishers then OK - I've laid out why I believe it's better than having newbies swan in and nick moves (there's a reason people don't have the same finishers in real promotions and that's because if someone's using a move they're allowed to be possesive of it). But I get that there's a real issue with intimidating new people or people having decided before they sign up, so fine.

Moving on though, @TheFrostyBlur do you have a decision on whether you want to ban people using others' finishers as normal grapples? I honestly don't see why anyone would ever want to do that, for the sake of kayfabe and out of respect for people who don't want to be hit with their own finisher casually in the middle of a match.

Is it really necessary? Chances are no one will be using your move and I can't really stop people from using superkicks/cutters and many more as normal moves. Your character is the most effective with your move and that's why you finish people with it. I don't think we should really limit people at all with what they can use. Everyone will know Jack is the master of the superkick as Vega is the master of the pedigree.

 

[Filet-o-Fish]

I shotgun the Styles Clash. @The Anarchist reserves his Firemans Carry Roundhouse Kick.

Woah I used the Styles Clash since the MP leagues so shush

 

[Geek773]

Is it really necessary? Chances are no one will be using your move and I can't really stop people from using superkicks/cutters and many more as normal moves. Your character is the most effective with your move and that's why you finish people with it. I don't think we should really limit people at all with what they can use. Everyone will know Jack is the master of the superkick as Vega is the master of the pedigree.

It worked fine limiting people in the TWF league and as far as I know didn't cause problems. And I can see how you could be OK with someone having the same finisher as you, being hit with your exact finisher as a normal move, in the way @Gambino mentioned before, isn't fun. In fact it's about one of the most annoying things that can happen in a league match. Unrealistic movesets aren't fun for anyone, and it's even worse when someone in the league has that exact move.

 

[Ginothony Bamtano]

It worked fine limiting people in the TWF league and as far as I know didn't cause problems. And I can see how you could be OK with someone having the same finisher as you, being hit with your exact finisher as a normal move, in the way @Gambino mentioned before, isn't fun. In fact it's about one of the most annoying things that can happen in a league match. Unrealistic movesets aren't fun for anyone, and it's even worse when someone in the league has that exact move.

As someone who has seen my move be used as a finisher in matches (Even having asked them to change it), I find it very annoying.

I don't want this to sound like me just tooting my own horn, but I feel that Blade is essentially the John Cena of the leagues. (Top Main Event babyface, generally dominant in the ring, has support of people in the league). When I see the Blade Bomb (Falcon Arrow 2) being used a minute into a match, it is very annoying. To me, it's no different than Slater using the AA against Jinder. I worked hard to make that move a part of my character, and just seeing it be used randomly in a match hurts my character in my eyes. Nobody else may thin so, but I do. I'm sure Geek can feel the same way when he sees the superkick being used. He built that move up as Rogue's trademark. I'm sure it's annoying for him to see a match started with a running superkick not five seconds in.

I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to discuss.

 

[Geek773]

As someone who has seen my move be used as a finisher in matches (Even having asked them to change it), I find it very annoying.

I don't want this to sound like me just tooting my own horn, but I feel that Blade is essentially the John Cena of the leagues. (Top Main Event babyface, generally dominant in the ring, has support of people in the league). When I see the Blade Bomb (Falcon Arrow 2) being used a minute into a match, it is very annoying. To me, it's no different than Slater using the AA against Jinder. I worked hard to make that move a part of my character, and just seeing it be used randomly in a match hurts my character in my eyes. Nobody else may thin so, but I do. I'm sure Geek can feel the same way when he sees the superkick being used. He built that move up as Rogue's trademark. I'm sure it's annoying for him to see a match started with a running superkick not five seconds in.

I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to discuss.

*Spams agree button*

 

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with a running superkick not five seconds in.

Pft....Who would do such a thing?

 

[Ginothony Bamtano]

Pft....Who would do such a thing?

 

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I strongly believe that people shouldn't have limits on their moves. @Gambino The Blade bomb is your move and people will see it as such but the animation is very popular because it's a good one and chances are that one or two other people will want to use it. @Geek773 you're using the superkick....I'm sure you know that everyone will be using that in some form and I can't just hold it off because you use it. I'm not going to limit moves since it does make it somewhat shit for people when they're making their CAWs....If they're doing everything by the rules then let them use what they want. As I said it's the character that makes the move and is the most effective with it. Am I going to kick out when Vega hits me with a superkick? Of course I will. Would I kick out if Rogue uses it since it's his finish? I probably wouldn't but it's easy as fuck to reverse so you should probably change it....You only connected it once in like the 20 times you tried to hit me with it. Limits to finishers are 100% no since it was a pain for me when I signed up to the PS4 league in TWF and I'm thinking about those people who would sign up late. The game is new guys so let people have fun with it and use what they want.

 

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I will however go with the rule of uploading CAWs to CC. Clearly the only clear way to know if people are not cheating is if 2K brings back the option to check stats in the game lobby. Plus I will be adding face images to match cards next year so it would be required for that.

 

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Any PPV events you guys would like next year? I remember Viewer's Choice being a big one