Hunter vs Bryan: How interested are you?

[RoyalRaven]

I can't get excited about it, until Bryan wins, otherwise it's just time to get out the Shovel!

 

[Lockard 23]

I'm baffled that a "Guru" like Kevin is baffled at people thinking HHH will go over someone he shouldn't. lolol

ity2:

I'm simply giving Triple H the benefit of the doubt here. The entire backdrop of this angle is set up for HHH to lose, and as mentioned, he has a rather brilliant track record (albeit not flawless, but I've already gone over that) with putting people over at Wrestlemania. And never has there been a more appropriate time for the babyface to get his big triumph over the heel than this year considering this is the big anniversary of the event. This is especially true given that kayfabe wise, Daniel Bryan might still be the WWE Champion to this day had it not been for Triple H screwing him at Summerslam.

Wrestlemania 10 had Bret Hart getting payback on Yokozuna for the loss a year before, which resulted in the ring filling up with various wrestlers celebrating Bret's title victory (shame Bryan isn't winning the title, as I thought that very same thing happening with Bryan was perfect for this year.) Wrestlemania 20 had Benoit and Eddie hugging each other in celebration over the fact that they both finally climbed to the top of the mountain together. If you want consider Wrestlemania 25 an anniversary too, then HHH whooped Orton's ass for damaging his family (both physically and mentally) the way he did. Applying all of that to this year, I have little doubt that HHH is losing.

 

[Wacokid27]

You have more faith than I do, lol. I’m well aware of the distinction between HHH and Paul Levesque, and I’m certainly aware that old Paul will always be determined to do what’s best for business – it’s that other thing you mentioned that I’m skeptical about. You said HHH/Paul understands the business and knows how to make a star, and while that’s probably true, I still have to wonder if Trips will somehow convince himself that going over Bryan might just perhaps be better for business after all. I mean, think about it. You say they want to build new stars, but they’ve had plenty of opportunities to do that over these last few years and they still haven’t done it. Not even due to failure, more like due to refusal. They don’t want to make new stars. They’re more eager to offer contracts to short term old stars, and maybe that’s the scariest thing. Batista winning the Rumble and likely headlining Wrestlemania is a perfect example of the skewed and borderline delusional business ethic that might very well leave Bryan fucked in the ass on the grandest stage of them all. After all, Triple H is a “huge star” too, right? Why should he roll over for Bryan? Couldn’t they make more money in the long run if he went over and maintained his mythical image? To perhaps headline another PPV with Brock? Think of the buys!

Ah, fuck it. I’m probably just being a mark, but I can’t shake the bad feeling. All logic and statistics suggest that HHH will do the right thing and job, I get that, but somehow that just seems ominous. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

Great post. I have only one issue with it. The WWE has created several new stars in the last few years.

Punk, Bryan, Cesaro, Big E Langston, Dolph Ziggler, Bray Wyatt, Reigns, Rollins, Ambrose.

I hear the IWC rumble as I type this, because there's this fallacy that these guys "made themselves", which is an incredibly limited viewpoint, considering that, if they were really trying not to create new stars or focus entirely on older stars, these guys wouldn't have gotten the opportunities they got and wouldn't have been built up the way they have. I don't see you doing this, but I see too often folks on the Net who credit Bryan solely for his own success but blame the WWE for Jack Swagger's failure to get over. It's just an insane argument.

Yes, there is a reliance (even an over-reliance too often) on established stars (Cena, Orton, HHH) and on returning stars (Batista, Lesnar, RVD), but that's where the business argument comes into play. You rely on your established guys to build your newer stars, so it doesn't help when Orton takes on Cena for the 5,304th time, but when Cena jobs cleanly to Bryan, the impact is huge. When it takes HHH attacking Bryan from behind or Orton cheating to beat Bryan, even though he lost, he looks strong and the bad guys look scared. I mean, if they were real tough guys, they'd take him on in a straight-up, face-to-face fight. That's why Orton faced Cena for the umpteenth time and why he'll finally beat Batista (I don't know if that'll happen at Mania, but he'll win the feud). So that when he takes on Bryan in that Summerslam match and Bryan does the running knee to Orton's face and pins him to become WWE World Heavyweight Champion, everyone will realize that it was a big deal.

It's also why I feel that HHH will go down to Bryan at Mania. This is a feud that should end there. But, again, I understand your skepticism.

wk

 

[Swift]

Cesaro, Big E Langston, Dolph Ziggler

I don't think I'd call these guys "stars", at least not yet (definitely not Ziggler lol)

 

[Wacokid27]

I don't think I'd call these guys "stars", at least not yet (definitely not Ziggler lol)

Crowd reactions to them say otherwise. They're guys who are instantly recognizable to the WWE fanbase.

wk

 

[Lockard 23]

I don't think I'd call these guys "stars", at least not yet (definitely not Ziggler lol)

Anyone who gets ample enough time on prime time television the way those guys do is definitely a "star." Not a main event level star or a mega star (the latter being one who is instantly recognizable even to people who don't watch wrestling) but a star nonetheless.

 

[RaveWayneBoo]

I don't think I'd call these guys "stars", at least not yet (definitely not Ziggler lol)

Fully agree that they are not stars YET.

 

[Shadie T]

Not too interested but I think it could be a good match, and if Bryan goes over it can't do any harm.

Fucking lol @ Adam
Fuck Bryan/Sheamus. Is that a joke?

Watch Bryan Vs Sheamus Extreme Rules 2012. How would you see it as a joke? Have you not seen that match?

 

[RaveWayneBoo]

Watch Bryan Vs Sheamus Extreme Rules 2012. How would you see it as a joke? Have you not seen that match?

Your right Adam it was really good match, but D Bry`s beef is with HHH so unless Shemus turns heel(which Im all for) then we aren't getting that match.

 

[Shadie T]

Your right Adam it was really good match, but D Bry`s beef is with HHH so unless Shemus turns heel(which Im all for) then we aren't getting that match.

I'm not saying it will happen I just would prefer Sheamus Vs Bryan than Triple H.

 

[RaveWayneBoo]

I'm not saying it will happen I just would prefer Sheamus Vs Bryan than Triple H.

Ohhh got ya sry couldn't be bothered to go through whole thread.

 

[Shadie T]

Ohhh got ya sry couldn't be bothered to go through whole thread.

Its fine bro.

 

[Brad.]

Can you stop saying ER2012 as if that's some sort of amazing argument? Bryan can put on great matches with anyone, doesn't mean shit.

 

[Brad.]

Just got back from school, Someone with energy explain to Adam why he's so wrong.

 

[Shadie T]

Can you stop saying ER2012 as if that's some sort of amazing argument? Bryan can put on great matches with anyone, doesn't mean shit.

It is though, you are trying to sell me on Bryan Vs Triple H instead of 2 guys who can gave great matches. Brock cant bring H to a great match when they work the same style so what makes you think Bryan could? Triple H just cant have good matches anymore.