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Seth Rollins is the wrong choice.

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TheWolf

The Artiste
Oh, yes they are like NPC they just speak the same Russo/Nash stuff. The same old cassette on repeat. I met plenty of them on the internet.
Maybe because Nash talks a lot of sense.

Russo talks sense occasionally as well. Although I am not his biggest fan.
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There was this guy on another Wrestling forum I would go on from time to time and this guy reminds me of him.
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[doublepost=1548881168][/doublepost]How many internet posters talk like this:

"Bryan was held back. He could have been as big as Austin"
 

Crash

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Maybe because Nash talks a lot of sense.

Russo talks sense occasionally as well. Although I am not his biggest fan.

Russo is just an attention whore who tries to stay relevant by saying stuff that will trigger wrestling fans. Nash had charisma, good ideas and was also a good worker. But if he was that great of a genius why is he not booking or writing anything for WWE or other promotions?
 

TheWolf

The Artiste
Russo is just an attention whore who tries to stay relevant by saying stuff that will trigger wrestling fans. Nash had charisma, good ideas and was also a good worker. But if he was that great of a genius why is he not booking or writing anything for WWE or other promotions?
Well maybe he should.

Given that wrestling is garbage across the board these days.
 

SWL

ur booty is heavy duty like diarrhea
Hotshot
you can't blame the ratings of a 3 hour show on 1 person. Technically you could blame Ronda, Becky and everyone else on that episode for low ratings as well while you're at it lol.

Nobody's ever going to be "the right choice" because you just can't please everyone, especially in the wrestling community where complaining is a natural reaction to everything and everybody knows how to run a wrestling company better than Vince anyways. Just because you dislike Rollins, doesn't mean everyone else does as well. He's getting good reactions and puts on great matches, so I don't see the problem with him
 

TheWolf

The Artiste
you can't blame the ratings of a 3 hour show on 1 person. Technically you could blame Ronda, Becky and everyone else on that episode for low ratings as well while you're at it lol.

Nobody's ever going to be "the right choice" because you just can't please everyone, especially in the wrestling community where complaining is a natural reaction to everything and everybody knows how to run a wrestling company better than Vince anyways. Just because you dislike Rollins, doesn't mean everyone else does as well. He's getting good reactions and puts on great matches, so I don't see the problem with him
The problem is that he's not suited to be the face of the company. He's popular with the smarks. But they are not representative of the wider audience. He's going to turn more viewers off.

The fact is that Rollins winning the Rumble didn't generate any buzz. As shown by the ratings. He has to shoulder some of the blame.
 

Crash

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The problem is that he's not suited to be the face of the company. He's popular with the smarks. But they are not representative of the wider audience. He's going to turn more viewers off.

The fact is that Rollins winning the Rumble didn't generate any buzz. As shown by the ratings. He has to shoulder some of the blame.

What proof do you have that Rollins is hurting the ratings?
 

Solid Snake

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Champion
You can't blame the entirety of Raw on one man. lol He has little say in what happens. The ratings are down because they have horrible writers and they stick to scripts that are lackluster. WWE has more talent than ever before but continues to get bad ratings on both Raw and SmackDown. If you want to blame anyone, blame @The Reagmaster.
 

Crash

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Raw this week was down 20% year on year. The worst year on year drop in over 20 years.

Funny how that occurred after Rollins won the Rumble.

But the rumble is a PPV and on the Network it doesn't even air on TV, the RAW ratings have nothing to do with this...
 

TheWolf

The Artiste
You can't blame the entirety of Raw on one man. lol He has little say in what happens. The ratings are down because they have horrible writers and they stick to scripts that are lackluster. WWE has more talent than ever before but continues to get bad ratings on both Raw and SmackDown. If you want to blame anyone, blame @The Reagmaster.
You can't absolve Rollins of any blame. WWE booked his Rumble victory well. Yet it didn't generate any buzz.

He's partially to blame. He's never proven to be a draw.
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But the rumble is a PPV and on the Network it doesn't even air on TV, the RAW ratings have nothing to do with this...
Yes it does.

People tune into RAW to see the fallout from the Rumble. Rollins' victory created zero buzz.
 

Crash

Well-Known Member
You can't absolve Rollins of any blame. WWE booked his Rumble victory well. Yet it didn't generate any buzz.

He's partially to blame. He's never proven to be a draw.

Oh yes he has proven to be a draw, when he was WWE champion during his 2015 run the ppv rates were very high.

Yes it does.

People tune into RAW to see the fallout from the Rumble. Rollins' victory created zero buzz.

A lot of people watch it on replay the next day now on their TV and not live because they are in different countries in different time zones and also a lot more people using streaming websites to watch the shows and all of that is not included in the ratings... This is not 1997 anymore.
 

TheWolf

The Artiste
Oh yes he has proven to be a draw, when he was WWE champion during his 2015 run the ppv rates were very high.



A lot of people watch it on replay the next day now on their TV and not live because they are in different countries in different time zones and also a lot more people using streaming websites to watch the shows and all of that is not included in the ratings... This is not 1997 anymore.
Wrong. His title reign tanked in the ratings.

The rest of your post makes little sense.
 

SWL

ur booty is heavy duty like diarrhea
Hotshot
The problem is that he's not suited to be the face of the company. He's popular with the smarks. But they are not representative of the wider audience. He's going to turn more viewers off.

The fact is that Rollins winning the Rumble didn't generate any buzz. As shown by the ratings. He has to shoulder some of the blame.
the idea of a wider audience is dead to begin with. Everybody knows what WWE is and what they're about, it's not like there are people who've never seen or heard of it. You either like wrestling or you don't. It doesn't really have much to do with who's on top and who isn't anymore, especially with such a big ass roster.
The only time you can bring outside viewers in to watch wrestling shows, is when either the Rock or John Cena make an appearance because they have fanbases outside of wrestling now. I'd maybe even throw Ronda in there as well. Other than that, there's only the core audience that sticks, so the least they can do is try and satisfy those first.

I see you talk a lot about buzz, but how would you create buzz when everything they do has been rumored and reported on the internet 2 months before it actually happens? Creating buzz was a thing back in the 90s when people had to watch the shows on TV and wait until everything unfolds. Nowadays you just watch whatever they put on Youtube and read about what they're gonna do next time on some dirtsheet instead of watching the whole shows and waiting for the next episode
 

TheWolf

The Artiste
the idea of a wider audience is dead to begin with. Everybody knows what WWE is and what they're about, it's not like there are people who've never seen or heard of it. You either like wrestling or you don't. It doesn't really have much to do with who's on top and who isn't anymore, especially with such a big ass roster.
The only time you can bring outside viewers in to watch wrestling shows, is when either the Rock or John Cena make an appearance because they have fanbases outside of wrestling now. I'd maybe even throw Ronda in there as well. Other than that, there's only the core audience that sticks, so the least they can do is try and satisfy those first.

I see you talk a lot about buzz, but how would you create buzz when everything they do has been rumored and reported on the internet 2 months before it actually happens? Creating buzz was a thing back in the 90s when people had to watch the shows on TV and wait until everything unfolds. Nowadays you just watch whatever they put on Youtube and read about what they're gonna do next time on some dirtsheet instead of watching the whole shows and waiting for the next episode
Simple.

If people see someone worth investing in has won the Rumble. Or see something or someone interesting across social media. They are more likely to watch RAW to see what they are doing.

The lapsed fan always comes out for the big names. Austin, Rock, etc. The likes of Rollins do not make people want to tune in again. He's popular with the incels and the smarks. But he doesn't attract normal people.
 
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