Best Heels Of All Time

[Big Red Jericho Punk]

Some great choices. I can’t put Brock in there because his mic skills just aren’t good enough. Same goes for Orton and I can’t take Triple H. You can ask anyone about those 20 minute promos that put people to sleep or made people that wanted to change his channel.

Jericho is my favorite of all time and I definitely put him up there, i thought Jericho wasn’t that liked as a heel for some reason maybe for being too nerdy or not believable with his clean look. Punk is still a mega star to me, don’t you have to be to be facing The Rock on a major PPV? You’ll accept that April though after he faces Rock and Taker. You’ll have to accept the fact.

 

[NotReallyaGoodUN]

Mainly because stupid rasslin fans thought their Rocky was turning his back on them for Hollywood. Same shit people have been crying about ever since, and lol @ them for thinking Lesnar was going to be the loyalist who wouldn't go anywhere.

The best heel was the one guy who brought it mainstream first. Gorgeous George. The next best one was the guy who had heat from everyone for the majority of his career. Vince McMahon.

Oh yeah. It's still no mean feat, all things considered. These people have certain "loyalties" and flipping that upside down is pretty, pretty tough.

Lesnar could have been THE man of this generation had he not taken that period of absence to pursue other interests...such an awkward time too, they had no other choice but to hand over the torch to Cena and Orton. When they say they are "offering him a new contract" it means he'll just show up occasionally like before yes?

 

[We Are Legion]

Brock's mic skills never needed to be good. Volkov, Andre, and Sheik had fucking horrendous mic skills and practically everyone regards them as some of the best heels ever. Mic skills don't determine whether or not you can be a great heel.

Oh, and Austin fucking sucked as a heel, I just want to make that perfectly clear.

 

[Dale]

That must make The Miz a megastar too then, you know having actually been in a WrestleMania event.

 

[We Are Legion]

Being in Wrestlemania doesn't even determine whether or not you were a great heel, it just determines how big of a star you were. Vader was a damn good heel.

 

[Gimmick]

I thought Triple H was a fantastic heel. His stuff between 1999 and 5005 was just great to watch, from his Helmsley-McMahon angle to his dominant reign as champion with Evolution. Never cut the most heelish promos, but his constant beatdowns on opponents, sneaky wins and overall arrogance made him a great guy to hate.

JBL was also another effective heel. The way he made sure not to do anything that would get a positive reaction from the crowd made him so easy to boo against. The same goes for the likes of Vince McMahon as well, who did a great job at making everyone despise him.

 

[Dale]

I was referring to BRJP claiming Punk will be cemented as a megastar because he's facing The Rock at the Rumble then presumably Taker at Mania.

 

[Big Red Jericho Punk]

Dale’s attempts at making snide remarks are just as bad as Triple H heel character after 2001. With Stephanie, he was fantastic but I really didn’t care for Flair-HHH run. Evolution was an awesome stable, but it was more because of Orton doing the legend killer character and Batista coming up.

 

[Dale]

And your incessant whining is even more predictable than Punk's material to try and get himself some heat.

 

[We Are Legion]

NO RESPECT!

 

[NotReallyaGoodUN]

Dale’s attempts at making snide remarks are just as bad as Triple H heel character after 2001. With Stephanie, he was fantastic but I really didn’t care for Flair-HHH run. Evolution was an awesome stable, but it was more because of Orton doing the legend killer character and Batista coming up.

Yeah, but the whole concept wouldn't have existed if not for Triple H and Flair, the entire stable was based on "inferiors usurping the superiors", and I hate being the one who has to sound trite, thereby "evolving."

I was not a big fan of the rehash storyline in 09' though. I guess that was just an excuse to turn Orton into a fan favorite.

During this episode of Raw, Orton and Triple H finally made peace with each other, with Orton admitting that he respects him.

Well, duh.

 

[We Are Legion]

Randy Orton and Batista were by-far the weakest aspects of Evolution.

 

[Deezy]

Brock's mic skills never needed to be good. Volkov, Andre, and Sheik had fucking horrendous mic skills and practically everyone regards them as some of the best heels ever. Mic skills don't determine whether or not you can be a great heel.

Oh, and Austin fucking sucked as a heel, I just want to make that perfectly clear.

Nobody regards Volkov as a good heel, he acted Russian, anyone could be heel using a bad accent. Nikita Koloff ffs. And Andre and Shiek were more remembered more for being characters, then being heel. Moot point.

And Austin being a terrible heel is fucking stupid, he got over playing heel in WCW as one of the Blondes, and was one of the main heels in WWF around 96 and just because he had one heel run in 01 that he wasn't into, isn't the whole basis of one career.

Clue? Get one.

 

[We Are Legion]

Nobody regards Volkov as a good heel, he acted Russian, anyone could be heel using a bad accent. Nikita Koloff ffs. And Andre and Shiek were more remembered more for being characters, then being heel. Moot point.

And Austin being a terrible heel is fucking stupid, he got over playing heel in WCW as one of the Blondes, and was one of the main heels in WWF around 96 and just because he had one heel run in 01 that he wasn't into, isn't the whole basis of one career.

Clue? Get one.

No, incorrect. Sheik and Andre were remembered for being the rivals of Hulk Hogan. It doesn't take a fucking wrestling expert to understand why WMIII stood as the biggest drawing ppv in history for nearly 2 decades. They were heels for what they did, who they opposed, and what they were capable of which was winning the WWE Championship in an era where Hulkamania was dominant. So... you fail.

And I was CLEARLY addressing Austin's heel turn in 2001, not his bullshit WCW days with Brian Pillman that no one remembers hardly anything about. Yeah, DUH he was a good heel in ECW too which is why WWE picked him up in the first place. Seriously, quit pretending you have all the answers when you obviously can't even read a fucking thread properly.

 

[Deezy]

No, incorrect. Sheik and Andre were remembered for being the rivals of Hulk Hogan. It doesn't take a fucking wrestling expert to understand why WMIII stood as the biggest drawing ppv in history for nearly 2 decades. They were heels for what they did, who they opposed, and what they were capable of which was winning the WWE Championship in an era where Hulkamania was dominant. So... you fail.

And I was CLEARLY addressing Austin's heel turn in 2001, not his bullshit WCW days with Brian Pillman that no one remembers hardly anything about. Yeah, DUH he was a good heel in ECW too which is why WWE picked him up in the first place. Seriously, quit pretending you have all the answers when you obviously can't even read a fucking thread properly.

You say Austin was shit as a heel, you are the one acting like one run he made in 01 is the be all, end all of his entire career. That is the failure here. Don't act like nobody remembers the Hollywood Blondes. i do, I know others do as well. I made it perfectly clear.

And Andre and Shiek winning titles? Yeah let's hear it for one transitional champion and one for storyline purposes. Let's us not forget how major a rival Shiek was for Hogan during that time? Being used as a go between for Backlund and Hogan made that such a major rivalry right?

And don't even bring up Russian heels, as it was the easiest fucking character to play during the Cold War, every country bumpkin who could pass of a shitty Russian accent was pushed to the mainevent for that, it doesn't mean shit. Same goes for every Nazi character used after WW2.

Act like you know.