WWE RAW November 12th 2012 Live Discussion Thread

[Danielson]

Here comes Shemus 5 moves of doom

 

[Big Hoss Rambler]

gingers don't have muscle.

 

[Farooq]

White noise. Obviously because noise has a race

 

[Stopspot]

I think Sheamus left arm is covered in baby oil

 

[Wacokid27]

Let me make something clear.

I don't dislike Ryback. I think he's got a terrific look, a powerful, if a bit limited, moveset, and an incredible amount of charisma.

But he should have started this phase of his career as a heel. The fans tire of faces with no background or buildup. When Vince saw Ryback, he saw Goldberg (you know it's true). Terrific look, doesn't have to talk, literally looks like he could kill somebody in the ring. Where Bischoff had it over Vince (yes, you read that right) is that Eric knew that Goldberg had to start out as a silent, destructive heel/tweener force (his first TV match was against Hugh Morrus, for Christ's sake). Then, when the crowd naturally began to cheer him, you could turn him face. Vince saw Ryback and immediately said, "Screw build-up! He's a monster face!"

The reality is that, beyond his look and charisma, there's no reason to cheer for Ryback. He can't talk beyond monosyllables. He hasn't given us any drama to think about. The only people that are cheering for him are casuals and children, two parts of the "fanbase" (or WWE Universe, if you prefer) that have extremely short memories. Once those groups tire of him (which will be a far shorter run than Cena or Sheamus, both of whom can actually talk), people will start to boo him. Then, when he should be the top face in the company, they'll be forced to turn him heel or make him irrelevant.

Don't even get me started on the Paul Heyman-Brad Maddox segment backstage, which, I guess, remains forever unexplained. Bad storytelling bothers me.

wk

 

[Danielson]

Do people really say fella?

 

[Wacokid27]

I think Sheamus left arm is covered in baby oil

He gave Randy Orton a pre-match hug backstage.

wk

 

[Stopspot]

Big show manhandling Regal again

 

[Danielson]

Big Show is going to hit Regal at survivor series? But why?

 

[Wacokid27]

So, at Survivor Series, Big Show's gonna punch Regal in the head? Why? What did Regal do?

Shouldn't Big Show be focused on his match with Sheamus instead?

wk

 

[Stopspot]

Also, why does Sheamus almost always bleed a little big from his left peck? Is he blading his chest?

 

[Stopspot]

Also Sheamus totally runs like a Welshman

 

[Wacokid27]

Also, why does Sheamus almost always bleed a little big from his left peck? Is he blading his chest?

If your chest were that pale, it wouldn't take much to make it bleed either.

wk

 

[Danielson]

So ummm seriously?? No Bryan?

 

[Wacokid27]

Also Sheamus totally runs like a Welshman

Watch yourself, fella! My family's lands were in Wales.

wk