WWE Raw LIVE Discussion 7/1/13

[Smart Marx]

He beat a former WWE Champion twice in The Miz, he was the sole Survivor at Survivor Series by beating a former WWE and World Champion, he did beat Cena once already, yes with help but its a win. He's not losing all his big matches really.

Everyone has beaten Miz lately. I'll give you the SS win. But he lost to Cena a few weeks later. That ladder match win means little if he can't pin Cena. I mean when Ziggler wins the world title, the only thing I will be thinking is when does Cena take it from him.

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[Sabretooth]

Randy really evolved from a pretty boy to a tough guy.

 

[Sabretooth]

Shit, I hope D-Bryan isn't legit hurt. Either that or he was just selling really awesomely.

If he's hurt, that'd be awful. He's one of the best characters in WWE

 

[Smart Marx]

I missed that Kane thing. Damn.

Glad Rhodes Scholars got the rub though.

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[Smart Marx]

Shit, I hope D-Bryan isn't legit hurt. Either that or he was just selling really awesomely.

If he's hurt, that'd be awful. He's one of the best characters in WWE

Bry is hurt too?

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[Hidden Blaze]

Everyone has beaten Miz lately. I'll give you the SS win. But he lost to Cena a few weeks later. That ladder match win means little if he can't pin Cena. I mean when Ziggler wins the world title, the only thing I will be thinking is when does Cena take it from him.

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Cena won't because I'm sure he'll go after The Rock once he sadly wins the WWE Title, Ziggler honestly doesn't need to cash in until after Wrestlemania in my opinion, but as I said we're both gonna have our opinions, always fun to have a debate over it, we'll see where it goes hopefully Ziggler ends up with a nice World Title push from this.

Anyway, rest of Raw been pretty great so far also.

 

[JakeYourBooty]

If he was legit hurt they wouldn't have had him in the ropes.

 

[JakeYourBooty]

Bathroom break time

 

[Hidden Blaze]

So, does the Shield come out here or not?

 

[The Viper]

If he's hurt, that'd be awful. He's one of the best characters in WWE

He's one of the best everything, lol.

Bry is hurt too?

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I didn't see exactly what I happened but I did see Bryan favoring his leg pretty bad and the camera zooming in on it. That might just be the WWE trying to make us think he's really hurt but you never know. Hope he's alright.

 

[Sabretooth]

I missed that Kane thing. Damn.

Glad Rhodes Scholars got the rub though.

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That's good booking.

 

[Sabretooth]

I'm sorry I can't watch Randy Orton vs Heath Slater. Randy needs to turn heel and 3MB doesn't need to be a jobber to the stars stable.

 

[Hidden Blaze]

I gotta pee, but I don't wanna pee and risk missing if The Shield comes out here.

 

[Smart Marx]

Cena won't because I'm sure he'll go after The Rock once he sadly wins the WWE Title, Ziggler honestly doesn't need to cash in until after Wrestlemania in my opinion, but as I said we're both gonna have our opinions, always fun to have a debate over it, we'll see where it goes hopefully Ziggler ends up with a nice World Title push from this.

Anyway, rest of Raw been pretty great so far also.

Only thing I know is Ziggler needs to be seen by the fans like he belongs wrestling Cena, Punk, Sheamus, etc... I mean it was last week Ziggler couldn't even pick up a win over Sheamus. From here forward Ziggler has to be impressive. He should eliminate Cena from the RR even if doesn't win. Have a rematch on Raw where he wins with help. A pinfall victory mind you. Then one last rubber match at the Elimination Chamber. One where interference is outlawed. Ziggler picks up a clean fall over Cena to end the program and pass the rub. After that some more wins over main eventers until he cashes in and looks like a true champion. Hopefully for six months or longer.

That's how I see it anyway.

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[Hidden Blaze]

Only thing I know is Ziggler needs to be seen by the fans like he belongs wrestling Cena, Punk, Sheamus, etc... I mean it was last week Ziggler couldn't even pick up a win over Sheamus. From here forward Ziggler has to be impressive. He should eliminate Cena from the RR even if doesn't win. Have a rematch on Raw where he wins with help. A pinfall victory mind you. Then one last rubber match at the Elimination Chamber. One where interference is outlawed. Ziggler picks up a clean fall over Cena to end the program and pass the rub. After that some more wins over main eventers until he cashes in and looks like a true champion. Hopefully for six months or longer.

That's how I see it anyway.

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Now that I would LOVE too see! I hope that happens cause I want Ziggler to have a damn good run with the title, partly why I want him to turn face honestly.