WWE RAW 2nd January 2012 - It Begins LIVE Discussion

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IT BEGINS
This week we finally find out who is behind the It Begins videos that have been running the last couple of months. The majority believe that it is Chris Jericho returning but you never know with WWE. Sometime during the show we will see the final video and the reveal.​


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Ziggler Champion in 2012?
Last week on RAW Dolph Ziggler managed to defeat CM Punk which meant that he gets a title match against Punk on the first RAW of 2012. Will we see a new champion to start the year or will Punk manage to retain the title?​


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Embrace the Hate
Last week Kane spoke and revealed why he had been attacking John Cena. He wanted John Cena to embrace the hate rather than try to ignore it. Kane closed the show last week and so what will we see this week from the Big Red Machine?​


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Truth Payback
Truth made his return to WWE television last RAW by attacking The Miz. This was a revenge attack after Miz had attacked Truth a month ago which caused Truth to be "injured" and miss a month of RAW. Truth has said that he will continue the attack on Miz and so where will this feud go from here?​


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Royal Rumble 2012
The Royal Rumble is four weeks away so expect WWE to focus on that PPV during RAW. They will start to build towards the show and may even announce some entrants to the Royal Rumble match.​

Tune in for that and much more on RAW this week!​

Be sure to get involved and post in this thread before, during and after RAW giving your thoughts on the show.​
 

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In theory this should be one of the best Raw's of the year and it's gonna be the first Raw of the year which means something is probably gonna be a let down which I' am somehow gonna be let down by the whole itbegins person. Punk/Dolph should own if given the time.
 

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I'm going to say Ziggler wins thanks to the 'ITBEGINS' being Jericho..

Ziggler rematch vs Punk at Rumble and Jericho screws Punk over leaving to the Wrestlemania match. That's my opinion.

I believe Kane will continue to get into Cena's head. I've noticed he's hardly wrestling these days so I'd say Kane will continue to get inside his head.

I see The Miz cutting a promo only for Truth to interrupt and possibly a match, I don't want a feud between the two we've seen so many Tag Splits and feuds, done to death.

I see Air Boom and Uso's or Epico/Primo having a match, I really want Air Boom to lose the belt...

Fox/Beth for the titles should happen, maybe that's what we will see... Possibly some Rumble Entrant matches or something as well...

It's going to be a good RAW
 

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Only interested in It Begins and to see if they stop trolling Brodus and he actually debuts this time.

Don't give a shit about Kane, Cena, Truth, or Ziggler having to carry Punk to a mediocre match with Punk getting a blatantly obvious win. (As well he should)
 

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Ziggler carrying Punk? Mediocre match? Too much wrong with that statement.
 

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Let's assume it's not Jericho.

I have no idea who it could be that would have the impact that Jericho would have right now it'd be a huge let down if it weren't him. Only bigger return would be Austin to an in ring return and lets face it the chances of that .99%

Should be a damn epic Raw
 

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If WWE pulls one of the biggest things it ever did and actually got it to be Brock then I'd be happier than I would if it was Jericho but that really is not gonna happen. This will either be very awesome or one of the biggest letdowns I can remember no middle ground.
 

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If WWE pulls one of the biggest things it ever did and actually got it to be Brock then I'd be happier than I would if it was Jericho but that really is not gonna happen. This will either be very awesome or one of the biggest letdowns I can remember no middle ground.

Exactly though if they were gonna do it with Brock I don't see why he'd have announced retiring from the UFC, that only led to speculation. That would be like the amount of shock they accomplished when they brought in Goldberg. Goldberg would be actually the only middle ground now I wouldn't mark out but I wouldn't be so disappointed, though a why would be a bigger question.
 

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Lets say if it was Brock it would still be shocking because just because he retired doesn't mean he has all ties cut from UFC. He's still under contract so would have to buy it out and get Dana to agree to a buy out. Plus it would make him and the UFC look bad if he took a dive just to get with WWE for this thing. So it would still be a huge shock despite people speculating on it because of what happened. Never thought about Goldberg but don't think it's him either. Whoever it is I think is gonna feud with Punk for sure which is where Jericho is the only guy who truly makes sense in that case.
 

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Andrew do you honestly think that Ziggler is going to carry the title into Mania? Lol, there's no chance of that happening and he's not even picking up the title tonight as I still think he has a few things to adjust before getting the WWE Title.... The best in the world feud, if it is to happen, will happen over the WWE title. Jericho and Punk will be a top draw for a lot of smarks and the title adds to this and gives the title credibility.

Doubt Cena's heel turn will happen tonight, if it is going to happen it will be on PPV where it seems a lot more important and not over shadowed by whoever itbegins is.

Miz vs Truth feud should be interesting and I hope Truth gets the upper hand once more to continue his face turn. I see a promo segment this time but no physical violence, there's no point in over killing it and sometimes words are better than actions during a heel turn.

Knowing WWE they won't start the Rumble build until next week, so yeah.
 

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I had forgotten about Brodus Clay. I hope for his sake that he debuts this week, the running joke with his delayed return got old a month ago. Just get him back on television and give him a squash match.
 

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Prodigy, it's Royal Rumble time... Most of the time it's always someone who's being pushed facing a Champion.

It could work with Ziggler winning then losing it back to CM Punk knowing WWE there hasn't been any long reigns with the WWE Championship lately.
 

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I say Clay debuts at the rumble and goes on a rampage in the match
 

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Ziggler won't win it, no way Andrew. A reign that lasted less than a month for him would ruin the credibility of the title and hurt Ziggler more than help him.
 

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wait why would Jericho cost Punk the title if the whole reason he is comming back is to challenge punk to see who is the best in the world and get the WWE title back.

lol Ziggler carry Punk, no i think its called having good chemistry.