Raw WWE RAW 25th November 2013 - LIVE Discussion - Survivor Series Fallout

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Yeah. i'd just like see someone else thrown into the feud.

I have a feeling I already know who the two potential candidates you'd rather have, but let's be completely honest about this. Whose face on a poster would get more attention? Cena's or anyone else on the current WWE roster.

Let's also be honest about WWE and their top stars. Hogan would've been milked dry if he didn't look bad after Zahorian, and jumped to WCW, Bret Hart would've been milked dry if not for WCW almost bankrupting the company, Steve Austin would've been milked dry if not for the neck injury, Rocky too if not for Hollywood swinging. Shall I continue?

Is there anyone else in the past 10 years not named Batista who moved the needle like Cena? Taker perhaps, but he's been a draw since 93. Edge did alright, but was the guy the draw chased for most of it. Jericho never moved the needle, infact Business nosedived after his undisputed reign.

If there was a guy to take Cenas place, WWE would use em.
 

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So Xavier Woods already needs someone else ontop of Truth because he won't make him successful? Feels like an out of nowhere call up rather than being brought up with a purpose.
Seems more like a phase out to me. What was once Tons of Fuck has become The Funkadactyls. Tensai is a NXT announcer and Clay is somewhere. I could see the girls being pushed toward the Usos or another act and even keeping the music and dancing gear/gimmick. They've surpassed the guys they were supposed to valet thanks to Total Divas. It reminds me of Maryse with Ted, Torrie with Tajiri, or Trish with T&A, they've became the actual focus over the equal or accessory.
 

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Seems more like a phase out to me. What was once Tons of Fuck has become The Funkadactyls. Tensai is a NXT announcer and Clay is somewhere. I could see the girls being pushed toward the Usos or another act and even keeping the music and dancing gear/gimmick. They've surpassed the guys they were supposed to valet thanks to Total Divas. It reminds me of Maryse with Ted, Torrie with Tajiri, or Trish with T&A, they've became the actual focus over the equal or accessory.

You missed the best example with Lita and Essa Rios
 

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I forgot about the little Mexican jumping bean before the Hardys
 

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As long as Sandow/Ziggler are booked in some sort of hardcore stipulation match every week, I'll be ok. I've enjoyed their last two matches.
 

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I have a feeling I already know who the two potential candidates you'd rather have, but let's be completely honest about this. Whose face on a poster would get more attention? Cena's or anyone else on the current WWE roster.
at the this point I'd consider Punk winning the RR and Bryan somehow being added so it wont be boring like their other matches. Cena can still win and have another big WM moment.

What's the problem with your 4 main guys facing off for the title at the biggest ppv?
 

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I actually really wouldn't mind a fatal four way to crown an undisputed champion. Without question, Punk, Bryan, Orton, and Cena are the biggest active stars on the roster, and I think something as big as unifying the titles should have the biggest stars in the match.
 

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at the this point I'd consider Punk winning the RR and Bryan somehow being added so it wont be boring like their other matches. Cena can still win and have another big WM moment.

What's the problem with your 4 main guys facing off for the title at the biggest ppv?

WM 2000.....For one thing. Every multi-man match for titles at Mania ever since that for seconds.

Aaaand, you need some depth on the card, relying on Taker/TBD, and a Fatal Fourway match isn't selling shit, rather have Cena/TBD, Punk?TBD, and the others facing either one of them. Titles at Mania should always be 1 on 1. Adding bodies doesn't help, never has, never will.
 

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WM 2000.....For one thing. Every multi-man match for titles at Mania ever since that for seconds.

Aaaand, you need some depth on the card, relying on Taker/TBD, and a Fatal Fourway match isn't selling shit, rather have Cena/TBD, Punk?TBD, and the others facing either one of them. Titles at Mania should always be 1 on 1. Adding bodies doesn't help, never has, never will.
That should have been HHH vs Rock though not Foley out of shape/Show.

Brock/Taker Goldust/Cody Shield/Wyatts still a good enough card to get a million buys.
 

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I really don't want to see Brock/Taker. I've never been a fan of two part timers getting a match together. I think part timers should be used to face full timers. I'd much rather see Cena/Taker over anything else. Wyatts/Shield should happen. I think Bryan/Orton will return at Mania, or we'll get another Punk/Orton match at WrestleMania. Brock/Punk was so good at SummerSlam that I wouldn't be against them going against each other at Mania, but I really don't want to see the Heyman and Punk stuff continue.