WWE RAW 14th October 2013 - LIVE Discussion - Arrest Warrant Incoming?

[SAIYANS]

Ryback really should have never went heel. He worked as a face, he should have just went after midcard gold first. They rushed him too soon as he could've been more special than Punk or Bryan or the like with some damn patience

Even Heyman looks like he doesn't give a fuck in the Ryback and Axle matches lol

 

[John McHenry]

Feel bad about Axel they didn't give him time before tagging on Ryback.

 

[PHX]

Ryback really should have never went heel. He worked as a face, he should have just went after midcard gold first. They rushed him too soon as he could've been more special than Punk or Bryan or the like with some damn patience

Even Heyman looks like he doesn't give a fuck in the Ryback and Axle matches lol

Agreed with most of this though you can figure out which part I don't agree with. But yeah I kept saying them rushing that Punk/Ryback match was a no win situation. Guy was really getting over good as a face and just made no sense to make him heel where he is no where near as over there as he was as a face. Just was a mistake on their part and don't think they will be able to capture what they could have done with Ryback again.

 

[PHX]

They really didn't sell that at all and just looked clueless lol.

 

[SAIYANS]

Agreed with most of this though you can figure out which part I don't agree with. But yeah I kept saying them rushing that Punk/Ryback match was a no win situation. Guy was really getting over good as a face and just made no sense to make him heel where he is no where near as over there as he was as a face. Just was a mistake on their part and don't think they will be able to capture what they could have done with Ryback again.

He could have been a bit bigger than Lashley was headed to be IMO. Now fans are giving him shit like Lance Storm in his matches. He really was screwed by a heel turn, when he had unbelievable fan support and has a look at its obvious Vince could sell if they had waited a year.


And damn that camera guy. He stayed focused on the fat asses during the stereo splits.

 

[SAIYANS]

Feel bad about Axel they didn't give him time before tagging on Ryback.

He was more relevant with Otunga as tag champ. I mean he really lacks a personality sadly. He's like DH Smith, a drone. His best use may very well be to treat the IC title like a TV title and defend it every week in a 15mins of fame match. He really has to let his wrestling speak for him, but even then his wrestling lacks the ferocity of a Finlay or Benoit. He reminds me of why Malenko and Lynn failed in wwf as singles acts

 

[John McHenry]

Not going to be a popular opinion but I don't know why they didn't just bring him back as Skip he was the most over in Nexus as Skip. But I agree now he'll be screwed forever especially since the goldberg thing. Unless they somehow convince Goldberg to job to him or give him the rub. Chances of that are slim to none.

 

[SAIYANS]

People cutting promos on challenging primo and Epico, who woulda thunk it?

 

[John McHenry]

He was more relevant with Otunga as tag champ. I mean he really lacks a personality sadly. He's like DH Smith, a drone. His best use may very well be to treat the IC title like a TV title and defend it every week in a 15mins of fame match. He really has to let his wrestling speak for him, but even then his wrestling lacks the ferocity of a Finlay or Benoit. He reminds me of why Malenko and Lynn failed in wwf as singles acts

Well it's not like they give him any time to develop mic skills.

 

[SAIYANS]

Not going to be a popular opinion but I don't know why they didn't just bring him back as Skip he was the most over in Nexus as Skip. But I agree now he'll be screwed forever especially since the goldberg thing. Unless they somehow convince Goldberg to job to him or give him the rub. Chances of that are slim to none.

Goldberg doesn't have to job to him. Hell at this point his career could be saved by Heyman turning on him with another recruit and him needing a partner .... Enter Goldberg. Goldberg making a handful of appearances and then working one match where they wreck shit side by side wouldn't be awful

 

[SAIYANS]

Well it's not like they give him any time to develop mic skills.

He was of nxt. He made the main roster. He went back to redemption. He worked superstars. He went back to NXT in their current format. He was brought up to the roster alongside Heyman. At some point there he should have sought help or took some classes away from wwe, he reminds me of shelton without the wow athleticism, just complacent.

 

[SAIYANS]

Why the fuck weren't Swagger and Cesaro given to Heyman again? They could easily do both guys roles and be great.

Axle would have made a good flunky who stated quiet while Zeb spewed hate

 

[John McHenry]

Goldberg doesn't have to job to him. Hell at this point his career could be saved by Heyman turning on him with another recruit and him needing a partner .... Enter Goldberg. Goldberg making a handful of appearances and then working one match where they wreck shit side by side wouldn't be awful

Don't know what rub means I take it?

 

[SAIYANS]

These guys are becoming a face team lol

 

[PHX]

He was more relevant with Otunga as tag champ. I mean he really lacks a personality sadly. He's like DH Smith, a drone. His best use may very well be to treat the IC title like a TV title and defend it every week in a 15mins of fame match. He really has to let his wrestling speak for him, but even then his wrestling lacks the ferocity of a Finlay or Benoit. He reminds me of why Malenko and Lynn failed in wwf as singles acts

He def wasn't more relevant then or any better then lol. Cause he does at least have Heyman which makes him not being good on the mic not a big deal, has a title and apart of the feud with Punk. Thing is he is he just doesn't make you care that he is in the feud and that he is I.C champ and not really having good matches either.

Cesaro might really have a thing here with this big swing.